Help - I may be on the horns of a dilemma

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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Wiggle have a sale on BMC and Colnago Frames ATM, just so's you know:

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    mmmmmm
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I agree, I may harp on about my SCR not being stiff enough or wanting to upgrade every component but it would just hurt my soul to know that I spent four figure sums (£1000) on a product that has less build quality and longevity than something Argos or Halfords is selling.

    Right now a Carrera Subway would have Cervelo owners less frustrated. Think about it...
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  • Bassjunkieuk
    Bassjunkieuk Posts: 4,232
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I agree, I may harp on about my SCR not being stiff enough or wanting to upgrade every component but it would just hurt my soul to know that I spent four figure sums (£1000) on a product that has less build quality and longevity than something Argos or Halfords is selling.

    Right now a Carrera Subway would have Cervelo owners less frustrated. Think about it...

    That's pushing it a little I feel, I think we should say "Action Bikes" instead!
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  • don_don
    don_don Posts: 1,007
    jashburnham wrote:
    Wiggle have a sale on BMC and Colnago Frames ATM, just so's you know:

    colnago-extreme-c-zoom.jpg

    bmc-slc01-zoom.jpg

    mmmmmm

    Oh my....

    I wish I hadn't seen this :lol:
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    It's true, the BMC *is* an abomination.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
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    Good lord they don't look similar do they? I'm too scared to look.

    Though I suppose it'll be harder for Cervelo riders to take. Getting mistaken for riding Langsters, Giants and Pinarellos.... :wink:
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    Weeeeellllll...

    So far I've got to the point of having the option to upgrade.

    The choice is this:

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    or this:

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    There's a cash requirement to upgrade to either. The red one would be cheaper. The black one would match Bike 2. I've had the red one before and sold it because I didn't really like it. This time I'd put up with it, treat it with abuse, and put black electrical tape over every bit of red on it like a courier wannabe. They should both ride the same.

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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    The black one. Can't have you gaffer taping a Cervelo (even if it might help to hold it together)...
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    I prefer the black... The s3 is even lighter and apparently less harsh than the black one...
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I prefer the black... The s3 is even lighter and apparently less harsh than the black one...

    Yes, but the S3 comes in two colour schemes: (a) appalling, and (b) white with Olympic rings. Ideal if you've competed in the Olys, or are a prize w@nker, otherwise, not so much...

    Their current paint schemes, with the exception of Bike 2, which they haven't cokced around with too much, are universally dreadful.
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Greg66 wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I prefer the black... The s3 is even lighter and apparently less harsh than the black one...

    Yes, but the S3 comes in two colour schemes: (a) appalling, and (b) white with Olympic rings. Ideal if you've competed in the Olys, or are a prize w@nker, otherwise, not so much...

    Their current paint schemes, with the exception of Bike 2, which they haven't cokced around with too much, are universally dreadful.

    The white is utterly dreadful, I agree, but I quite like the black and grey!
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    jashburnham wrote:
    The black one. Can't have you gaffer taping a Cervelo (even if it might help to hold it together)...

    Oh, very good. Yes, indeed. That's really quite droll. I shall have to write that one done [etc...].

    Just remind me Jash, how long is the warranty Pinarello offer? Is it lifetime or something a bit shorter? :twisted:

    [Obviously, having said this will result in the UK distributor turning round and telling me that despite what Cervelo say, my problem isn't a warranty issue... :roll: ]
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    Greg66 wrote:
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    I prefer the black... The s3 is even lighter and apparently less harsh than the black one...

    Yes, but the S3 comes in two colour schemes: (a) appalling, and (b) white with Olympic rings. Ideal if you've competed in the Olys, or are a prize w@nker, otherwise, not so much...

    Their current paint schemes, with the exception of Bike 2, which they haven't cokced around with too much, are universally dreadful.

    The white is utterly dreadful, I agree, but I quite like the black and grey!

    Did you consider the S3? If so, did you get as far as finding out how many wheels can't be used with it ...?

    For a bunch of engineers, they really can screw the pooch sometimes...
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Greg66 wrote:
    For a bunch of engineers, they really can screw the pooch sometimes...

    Yeah, I've wondered this.

    Hmm. The black is definitely nicer. It's beautifully understated. But that's a lot of cash to stump up.

    If you can put up with it, get the S3. It's still an extremely nice bike. If you can't put up with it, and don't want to stump the cash for the SL, what about getting the S3, selling it and buying, for example, a Canyon? Maybe this is a Higher Power telling you that it's time to move on to another model.
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  • Littigator
    Littigator Posts: 1,262
    Boooo, I can;t see the bike p*rn so have no idea what youo lot are talking about.

    IMO....give up on this love affair with expensive but flawed CF and get yourself a handbuilt Ti framed beauty......droooooooool!
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    Hmm.

    Ti.

    Looks nice.

    Bends like wet spagehtti. :P
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    I did look at the S3, yes, but dismissed it because the head tube ain't long enough before I even started looking at the wheels. However, the link on the cervelo site enlightened me...

    For a brand that (allegedly) make such great bikes they really do duck up a fair bit, don't they?

    Still like the S3 though :)
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Stonehenge cycles in Salisbury has a couple of Merlin Ti frames in stock and on sale right now.

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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    itboffin wrote:
    Stonehenge cycles in Salisbury has a couple of Merlin Ti frames in stock and on sale right now.

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    Dear God that's ugly. Properly ugly. Is it from their Celtic tattoo range?

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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    jashburnham wrote:
    itboffin wrote:
    Stonehenge cycles in Salisbury has a couple of Merlin Ti frames in stock and on sale right now.

    cyr_img2.jpg

    Dear God that's ugly. Properly ugly. Is it from their Celtic tattoo range?

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    Oh so now you have a problem with Celtic people do you, grrrrr!!!!
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    itboffin wrote:
    Stonehenge cycles in Salisbury has a couple of Merlin Ti frames in stock and on sale right now.

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    W

    T

    F

    is that? :shock: :shock: :shock:

    Even a devout weightweenie couldn't pass that off as "tuning".
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Its a Merlin Cyrene. ITs a bit... 1990's... for the Texan who has everything I think. They aren't that bad (I saw one up close in Exeter once... whoo) but it doesn't strike me as a bike bought by people who are terribly interested in actually riding. For starters you'd have to clean it with a toothpick.

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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    The whole frame and forks are covered in what can only be described as Ti fretwork on acid.
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  • Feltup
    Feltup Posts: 1,340
    The carbon forks look totally wrong for that. If you are going to make an art statement then do it all the way.

    I wouldn't mind the frame on its own hanging on a wall but ass a bike it is just too pretentious.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Feltup wrote:
    The carbon forks look totally wrong for that. If you are going to make an art statement then do it all the way.

    Reynolds forks. I have them. They're lovely. But not on that bike.

    It looks even worse with the ITM stem. And is that some sort of ergo-friendly bar they've got.

    All wrong.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Always Tyred wrote:
    For starters you'd have to clean it with a toothpick.

    Can you imagine if a toddler takes a half masticated biscuit from its mouth and puts it on the frame when you're not there. Those things harden faster that cement.
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    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • don_don
    don_don Posts: 1,007
    biondino wrote:
    It's true, the BMC *is* an abomination.

    Each to their own. I quite like it actually, but then unusual looks do attract me.
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    Greg66 wrote:
    Weeeeellllll...

    So far I've got to the point of having the option to upgrade.

    The choice is this:

    t_BRV77xx.jpg

    or this:

    t_BRV75xx.jpg

    There's a cash requirement to upgrade to either. The red one would be cheaper. The black one would match Bike 2. I've had the red one before and sold it because I didn't really like it. This time I'd put up with it, treat it with abuse, and put black electrical tape over every bit of red on it like a courier wannabe. They should both ride the same.

    Views from the massive?

    You've had the red one before and you didn't really like it but you would get another one? Doesn't make any sense to me. IIWMM, I would go for the '08 RS. Simple as that. Longer head tube makes sense, different geometry to the soloist and the R3, less sporty but more comfortable. The S3 you won't get in the Olympic colours anymore, that was a limited edition thank goodness imo, yukk! But the standard black and silver model is imo yummy and no, you can't fit certain wheels with it, and you can't fit Campag Record with it. But I would have it if I had the money. Over three grand for the frame, put DA on it and appropriate wheels, and there you go. Lovely. Elegant and I bet it goes like hell!! :D
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    don_don wrote:
    biondino wrote:
    It's true, the BMC *is* an abomination.

    Each to their own. I quite like it actually, but then unusual looks do attract me.

    +1. Except that Merlin. Yuk.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    don_don wrote:
    biondino wrote:
    It's true, the BMC *is* an abomination.

    Each to their own. I quite like it actually, but then unusual looks do attract me.
    It would be sheer hypocrisy otherwise.

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