Who wants to lose a stone by March - Week 2! (5-11th Jan)
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Hey guys, you have to remember that it is much easier not to take the calories in than it is to burn them off again!
I reckon that you'd be really pushing it to burn more than 500 calories an hour on the bike (or in the gym) without eating or drinking extra. That means you'd have to do about 7 hours of fairly vigorous 'unfed' exercise to lose a pound. An hour a day, every day. If you tried doing 2 or more hours, you'd end up getting really hungry and/or bonking and that's going to scupper your attempts at controlling your food intake - you'll eat everything in sight when you get home!
It's relatively easy to cut 500 calories off your daily food/drink intake. One third of that could be by eating half a tin of baked beans rather then a full tin, for example. One choccy bar would probably be at least 250 calories. 5 or 6 biscuits could easily top 500 calories? Or 3 slices of bread and butter/marge?
I know from repeated experience that I can lose a little over a pound of fat by riding a hilly '200' audax. We're talking 10-12 hours of hard cycling there.
Obviously, we will do our cycling anyway and the exercise is important to keep us healthy. It will help us lose weight, but the main contribution will come from watching what we take in.
PS Something to look forward to... Once we hit our targets, we will have to start eating more again to maintain our weights. I'm looking forward to that.0 -
I know what you're saying Colin. I think everybody here acknowledges that they eat more or as much as they burn off, which is why theyre not losing the pounds. At least we're all honest with ourselves! :?
On my end to end trip, despite burning off god knows how many calories in one day i was having full english breakfasts, plus toast, plus cereal, then pub lunch, then a big dinner. So if you add it all up, its hardly surprising i didnt lost much weight. On the flip side i did noticeably change shape.0 -
According to my HRM, i burn off roughly 650 calories one way on my commute, and the same back. Four times a week. So thats 1300 calories a day "spare". Which sounds a lot. But if you add up everything you eat, i often find i go over this. Even factoring in 2000 a day to cover my basic metabolic requirements.
Im so greedy... :shock:0 -
just weighed myself this am....93kg or 14 st 8lbs - I think my starting weight should have been 95kgs (or I've somehow managed to gain 3 kgs :shock: :oops: )0
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Snippet taken from LA's blog for his Tour Down Under preperation.
To fine-tune his preparation for the Tour Down Under, Lance traveled to Hawaii for some long miles and motorpacing. I'll be out there for the motorpacing, and it will be good to get some high-speed, race-pace hours in his legs before he starts the first stage race of his comeback. Here's the training plan I worked up before he left. It has changed slightly, as training programs always do, but the most important thing for Lance is the progression of block training. You can read more about block training in previous posts, but for now, check out what Lance is doing.
December 29-31---3-day training block
3-4 hours daily @ endurance pace staying below 315watts, climbs at 340-380watts
January 1: Recovery ride
Jan 2-4----3 day training block
Day 1: 4 hours @ endurance pace staying below 315watts, include 1hr @ Tempo power, 350-380watts, low pedal cadence during Tempo (60-70rpm).
Day 2: 4 hours @ endurance pace staying below 315watts, include 2-3 10-minute MuscleTension Intervals @ 45-50rpm, uphill @ 350-400watts with 8-10mins recovery between intervals.
Day 3: 4 hours @ endurance pace staying below 315watts, include 1hr @ Tempo power, 350-380watts, low pedal cadence during Tempo (60-70rpm).
January 5-6: Recovery rides
Jan 6-8----3 day training block
Day 1: 5.5 hrs with 3 climbs of 15-30minutes at 380-420watts, last 60mins behind motor for leg speed.
Day 2: 4.5 hours with 2-3climbs late in the ride of 15-30minutes at 380-420watts, last 60mins behind motor for leg speed.
Day 3: 4 hours @ endurance pace with 2 climbs of 15-30minutes at 380-420watts, last 60mins behind motor for leg speed.
Just wondering how this compares to other people on here & their rides??
Also,
LA's new bike...
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SteveR_100Milers wrote:Jonathan Mcp wrote:SteveR_100Milers wrote:I'm envious - I havent altered my weight since avbout October, despite week 51 doing 7 hours, xmas week 10.5 hours, last week 8 hours and this week will be doing about 8 again. Its all hard effort stuff to: track night, chaingang on saturday, two turbo 2x20's equivalent....where am I going wrong, I can't eat THAT much food!!
Maybe try some variety in your training, bit of aerobic gym stuff maybe?
OK, but why will that make any difference?
Just an odd ball theory that the body can develop "tolerance" to the stress of regular exercise and that there needs to be some variety. Might help,might not.0 -
sportbilly1976 wrote:just weighed myself this am....93kg or 14 st 8lbs - I think my starting weight should have been 95kgs (or I've somehow managed to gain 3 kgs :shock: :oops: )
I genuinely gained 4 kg over Xmas, so am using now 98kg as my start point.0 -
Week 1 was 89.0 Kg, Week 2 (tonight) 88.7 Kg. Not a MASSIVE change but it's in the right direction and your not supposed to loose it too fast are you!!!
Good, plenty of miles (for me), 26 on Thursday, holiday fri sat sun so did not ride (!!!) but ate loads. finished off the Quality Street with the Mrs on sat night. So peeved off with myself that I did 20 miles into work on Monday morning in the wind and rain and yes, I did have a side wall blow-out 2 miles from work that made me have to walk the rest of the way on my spd's and then get a new tyre fitted at lunchtime. Standard 10 m home, then 13 m in and out yesterday and 10 m in and out today.
Have told the Mrs I need to go for a long ride on sunday as I'm away on business tues weds so won't see the bike. It's really annoying when life has the audacity to get in the way of cycling!!!!0 -
Hope I'm not too late to join the party. Am on an ongoing mission to travel from 20st8 to 15st10. Started out commuting to work a few years ago while eating a bit less and got down to 18st8 but then hit a wall. In 2007 started road cycling fairly seriously and trained for six months to do a 2 day 212 mile ride in the hills of Central Wisconsin and Minnesota. The day after I got back from that epic, I weighed... 18st8, proving (to my satisfaction, at least) that exercise makes you fit, not thin. Last year got on a weightwatchers plan and got down to 16st1but fell off the wagon last autumn and ended up at 17st1 before starting to get back on track.
As of New Year I weighed 16st9.
Last Sunday came in at 16st4
STGs: (1) to adhere to a "real" training plan through winter. Not easy here! The forecast high for tomorrow is -17C, so we're talking lots of time on the turbo and in the gym; (2) to finally get to 15st10 by March and STAY THERE.
LTGs: complete London-Paris this June; complete the Firehouse 50 (Grand View, Wisconsin) in 2hrs 6mins or less in August.
So far as exercise goes, Mon: rest day; Tue: 2hrs of weights and fast walking in the gym in the early morning followed by a 1hr15mins walk home (bundled up like Scott of the Antarctic) in the evening; Wed: 2hrs of light cycling on the turbo with some pedalling drills. The rest of the week looks like gym and turbo Thu., rest Friday; and more turbo Sat. and Sun.
I wish typing burned calories...0 -
is it too late to join ?
My weight has yo-yo'd for 10 years or more and currently stands at about 17st 6lbs .I am limited to cycling for exercise due to a back problem but past experience has taught me its reducing your intake that gets the pounds off as Colin says
Currently cycling a short hilly loop on weekends and two nights to the gym 40mins ea.
I would recommend that you all keep a food diary for 7 days. Just put every single thing you eat in it. I think you will be amazed at how much snackfood slips by unnoticed :roll:
good luck everyone0 -
Never too late for anybody to join
Im being relatively good so far this week. have done 90 miles so far this week and if i commmute tomorrow and do the wheelers intro ride ono saturday ill be well on target.
Is anybody here coming to the wheelers saturday ride?
Hx0 -
Part of the secret lies in beer....as in dont drink it. or wine or cider.... bloody hell its impossible!0
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Beer is certainly my undoing. What I've done before Is to give it up altogether and I find that the weight comes off nice and steadily (1-2 pounds a week). The trouble is all the beers I have when celebrating hitting my target...SteveR_100Milers wrote:Part of the secret lies in beer....as in dont drink it. or wine or cider.... bloody hell its impossible!
Actually, that's the same thing as depriving yourself of food on some silly diet for 6 months. Eventually, you'll pack it in and go back to what you like and - surprise, surprise - the weight goes straight back on again.
The secret is to come up with a programme which features enough exercise, a sensible, healthy, satisfying diet and a moderate alcohol intake, but most importantly of all - something that you'd be happy sticking to for the rest of your life!
I'm giving myself a ration of 6 beers a week. I think I can live with that while losing weight. It would probably be okay to increase that to 10 or so once I've hit my target. What wasn't okay was to be drinking 25+ beers a week which is probably what I averaged in 2007 and 2008. :shock:0 -
25 a week, no wonder you gt porky! I go out once a fortnight, and go mad usually around 10 pints. rarely drink in the wek, and the other alternating weekends will drink 1-2 bottles wine0
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I barely drink at all. On the rare occasion i do i'll have 2 glasses of wine, feel trollied and then feel rough the next day. I don't know how i did the drinking thing when i was a nipper (im 30 now).
I wish i didnt love toast and peanut butter so...
Right. Who's for liposuction?
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lol
re beer drinking - I probably have 4 maybe a week...dont have any at home so only when out...and with sunday morning rides now that is a rare event....
wine - maybe a few glasses on a friday evening, but new year resolution to cut that out during the week....
still working thorugh clearing the remaining christmas savouries though :oops:
got my roadie yesterday & rode it to work this am...was soooo nervous & careful I dont think I went above 15 mph all the way....too many drains / cracks etc to watch out for!! :?
btw - are people still okay for a Cheshire cat training / reccie ride in Feb?0 -
Sportbilly are you coming to the wheelers intro ride on Saturday? I can forward the email from Viv about it if you need it.
Bet your road bike feels different!0 -
H,
I cant do saturdays as I have my son...only sundays :?
feels very different...cant wait till payday next friday to start getting some bits for it too!! 0 -
i was supposed to start another thread on the February ride - will do it now
on the subject of booze - I usually have a couple of glasses of wine a night but that has all stopped since 1st Jan. Now I have a small one if at all. Over Christmas I had one bad night (very, very unusual for me) where I inadvertently drank almost a pint of GIN! I was playing a game and just didn't realise how many I was knocking back. :oops:0 -
sportbilly1976 wrote:H,
I cant do saturdays as I have my son...only sundays :?
the wheelers sunday B ride shouldn't be too full on if you fancy that one0 -
sportbilly1976 wrote:H,
feels very different...cant wait till payday next friday to start getting some bits for it too!!
Sucked in I'm terrible in bike shops. i HAVE to buy something, even if i don't actually go in there for anything. :oops: 0 -
That's why they called it Mother's Ruin!popette wrote:Over Christmas I had one bad night (very, very unusual for me) where I inadvertently drank almost a pint of GIN! I was playing a game and just didn't realise how many I was knocking back. :oops:
Yikes, I've just read that article...
The government of the day became alarmed when it was found that the average Londoner drank 14 gallons of spirit each year!
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bluecow wrote:I barely drink at all. On the rare occasion i do i'll have 2 glasses of wine, feel trollied and then feel rough the next day. I don't know how i did the drinking thing when i was a nipper (im 30 now).
I wish i didnt love toast and peanut butter so...
Right. Who's for liposuction?
Simple answer, you're not drinking enough! If you're going to crack a bottle open then you may as well have half!0 -
Last chance to get some miles in before sunday's weigh in folks! What do you all have planned for the weekend? I amgoing on the wheelers intro ride tomorrow (will be adding around 30 miles just getting there and back to the start!) But at least its nice and flat where we're headed.
Sunday im skiing for a couple of hours. I say skiing. What i really ought to say is that i will spend 2 hours rolling around in the snow, embarrassing my son and getting tangled up in my poles, before falling ungraciously off the lift and giving up. :roll:0 -
sportbilly1976 wrote:H,
I cant do saturdays as I have my son...only sundays :?
Can't you just, i dunno...leave him under a bush for a while with a packet of Monster Munch and the Beano?0 -
Hmm, the forecast is still looking a bit grotty but if it dries up I might go for a hilly walk or two.bluecow wrote:Last chance to get some miles in before sunday's weigh in folks! What do you all have planned for the weekend?
I'll definitely try and get at least one good turbo session in.
Hmm, nearly 7 weeks off the bike and counting... 0 -
its only a bit of wind and rain! you wont melt!!
I've been out in some god awful conditions this winter, toughens you up for the summertime though.
Getting blown into a snowbank on holme moss springs to mind! :shock:0 -
I've just come back from the wheelers ride! I clocked just over 60 miles. I think the ride was about 40. Viv kindly gave me a lift from the Gateway to Prestwich so my ride home was relatively short. I really really enjoyed it today, despite it being a bit windy and cold and drizzly. Riding in a group is definitely different but i feel a lot safer when you're amongst a big bunch. And nattering to people as you ride about... well, err bikes, what else... Great
Recommended to all.0 -
good innit?
I did the chaingang and bombed after a lap.................not happy 0
