I just grassed a coach driver up

jam1e

Yes I know, but would people be as willing to shout assault and demand the teachers head on a stake in the situation i described?

(I'm ignoring any possible innuendo in your post!)

(in reply to snooks post but someone beat me to it...)

linsen

jam1e wrote:

Yes I know, but would people be as willing to shout assault and demand the teachers head on a stake in the situation i described?

(I'm ignoring the any possible innuendo in your post!)

Believe it or not but yes it happens.

Teachers are now officially allowed to physically restrain a child to protect them or another pupil, but that has not always been the case.

As in all these things, common sense must prevail. And I am not going to call the cops just because he held my arm.

Life's too short

jam1e

Sorry if I've been unclear, I wasn't criticising you, for what it's worth I think you're dealing with it in the right way. I was criticising the overreaction of some of the other posters who think they can smell blood...

always_tyred

jam1e wrote:

Yes I know, but would people be as willing to shout assault and demand the teachers head on a stake in the situation i described?

Er.... yes?

Actually, I was calling for the driver's neck on the basis of road rage whilst doing their job as a professional driver.

If I lost my rag with a client (yes, I confess, I'm an erotic masseur by profession) then, I'd be for the chop, no matter how irritating they were being. Maybe I'd get away with it once or twice with a stiff warning, but I'd jolly well have to buck my ideas up.

Its interesting that road rage is forgiveable, even when its profoundly unprofessional.
Ho hum.





(Not everything in this post is completely accurate)

jam1e

Always Tyred wrote:

jam1e wrote:

Yes I know, but would people be as willing to shout assault and demand the teachers head on a stake in the situation i described?

Er.... yes?

Actually, I was calling for the driver's neck on the basis of road rage whilst doing their job as a professional driver.

If I lost my rag with a client (yes, I confess, I'm an erotic masseur by profession) then, I'd be for the chop, no matter how irritating they were being. Maybe I'd get away with it once or twice with a stiff warning, but I'd jolly well have to buck my ideas up.

Its interesting that road rage is forgiveable, even when its profoundly unprofessional.
Ho hum.





(Not everything in this post is completely accurate)

Yet there's always an outcry about teachers being unable (in the past apparently) to restrain unruly kids they're kicking off... Or when people who were acting in self defence getting charged for "assaulting" their attackers... Or the other things that get Daily Mail readers riled

I'm just trying to highlight the problems and grey areas that arise when serious things like assault have such a lame definiton that can be abused by those with an ulterior motive.

rubbercolin

For Bus Drivers the rules are :

1 Do not leave the vehicle
2 Do not take part in an argument
3 Do not get physical

No 3 can if proven result in dismissal.

If proven is where its at - opinions should never be enough for somone to lose their livelihood.

If a witness is available then pursue this. If no witness or solid proof (Actual harm / CCTV) then don't . Would you expect to lose your job on the word of someone else - no matter how credible?

All incidents should be reported in writing to the operator . Verbal complaints can be enhanced -- and are often not pusued.

If you encounter a serious incident with a Bus or Coach driver - go to the Police and make a statement. Then follow up to the operator.

An interesting thread with some great views - made me think on the way home.

BTW -- I work for a national bus operator and have direct experience with this type of 'incident' on a weekly basis.

Drivers who lose their cool in the way described by the OP are accidents waiting to happen . Losing your cool driving something over 10 tons and 40ft long will hurt somone one day. Where I work we do take every incident seriously - although we might not always show it . [We live in a claim culture - a genine apology for an event can be followed by a claim letter!] No good deed goes unpunished.

Happy cycling !!

D

linsen

That's a very sensible and well-worded post, thank you rubbercolin

always_tyred

Yes.
However, I can't stop smirking at your username.
I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't.

linsen

Well to restore good karma in the world today I pulled over to let a minibus by on my "breathe in" narrow country lane at the end of my ride.

He cheerfully waved and I felt all lovely inside.

I know it takes two to make an argument and only one to defuse one.

I also know there is a vast difference between city and country cycling.

I have swallowed the chill pill

ChrisLS

...chill pills all round now...friendly cycling makes the world a better place 8)