Now Ricco gets busted for EPO
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campagsarge wrote:I have to say that it is no surprise that he was caught doping. Spanish cycling is in a right mess.
Ricardo Ricco is Italian, not Spanish.
(I might have got the wrong end of the stick here, so I'll just sit in the corner for a while
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Probably why David Millar was happy at leaving the team. CSC have been championed as having a really good anti-doping stance coupled with stringent testing policies. It would be dire indeed if any of their riders was caught doping.0
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z000m wrote:why have the whole team left, when barlo and liquigas are still there?
"Ok boys, we've been rumbled, pack yer things before the feds get here!"Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
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Didn't Millar complain to the UCI about Saunier Duval when he was there. Perhaps he had knowledge of the all-new EPO that was being used.
Remember Ricco's reaction in Procycling when interviewed last season. Raged up when interviewer brought up Millar's modern crusade.0 -
Kléber wrote:Congratulations to the AFLD for testing for this new form of EPO. Rumours have said some have been using new versions of the drug with impunity and now they're being rumbled.
The "Cobra" is nothing more than a worm: slimy, living dirty and seemingly without a brain.
Agreed with all of that and I'm pleased that he's been caught, Its sad though that the biggest headlines will be the wrong ones again
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i thought csc use daamsgard to run in house testing on their riders? id be suprised if any of them do test positive.
well im glad slimy pricco is out. what a horrid ungracious loser he was at the giro!0 -
Yeah - if it was a genuine isolated incident - you'd want to keep the team there. Or at least I would if i were DS.
Sounds to me like the team had got hold of undetectable EPO - but the tests are better than they thought. Oops.0 -
Prickcco is gone and the whole of his dirty little group of chums have gone with him.
If the team has ceased to exist just like that then the management must have been on some sort of last warning from the sponsor.
Like many, I just hope Bjarne's riders are operating within the rules.0 -
I reckon Valverde must be wearing an ironic smile.0
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Phil Liggert must be dusting down his "a few bad apples" word.doc file.0
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SteveR_100Milers wrote:I reckon Valverde must be wearing an ironic smile.
He is calm...Le Blaireau (1)0 -
jrduquemin wrote:campagsarge wrote:I have to say that it is no surprise that he was caught doping. Spanish cycling is in a right mess.
Ricardo Ricco is Italian, not Spanish.
(I might have got the wrong end of the stick here, so I'll just sit in the corner for a while )
Yep, sorry, I will clarify. I should have said with SD being a Spanish based team and with Spanish rider Beltran also caught with a positive sample during this tour, Spanish cycling is in a bit of a mess.
Vindicates ASO going it alone with their testing procedures though.0 -
Bound to have a far greater impact than the previous two cases.
I don't adhere to this SD are all dirty, but others are clean.
Are CSC, Astana and the others with "medical programmes" spotless?
The truth is, these teams remain one jump ahead. They saw this coming with profiles and got their docs in place, first.
Sean Yates back on ESUK. I'll be he'll be hammering this debatable fact.
I'm afraid for Ricco, because he is a candidate to go the way of Pantani; outspoken, a bit tormented by failure and an overiding drive to win. Add in the fact he knows all the others are at it.......
The only question left is how many riders and teams will make Paris?
In all honesty, many of us have had our fingers in our ears, waiting for this bomb to go off."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
It seems that the days of riders powering away from the leading group is over now.Maybe Evans deserves a bit more respect for plugging away at the front against these guys without actually pointing the finger when he is the only one criticised for following the wheel.From now on any rider who jumps away like Ricco did is probably on something(was I very naive to believe otherwise)and not a superb athlete as we would like to think.Its doubly disappointing because its not a generational thing as it seemed when Beltran was caught and it maybe says that even the younger riders look upon these drug tests as a challenge in much the same way as a big climb is.0
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z000m wrote:im on the sd mail out list, will be interesting to hear what they have to say this evening.
Well, you cannot get on their website, which is not too surprising.
I wonder if there are any Olympians getting a bit nervous at the fact that this new type of rEPO is being picked up in testing. Or maybe the Chinese will turn a blind eye.0 -
Hi there.
The test was after the stage 4 time trial - where Ricco lost several minutes, and probably didn't expect to be tested.
Now even after being tested, he then went on to the rampage on stages 6 and 9 - obviously he didn't expect the test to work.
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Blazing Saddles wrote:Bound to have a far greater impact than the previous two cases.
I don't adhere to this SD are all dirty, but others are clean.
Are CSC, Astana and the others with "medical programmes" spotless?
The truth is, these teams remain one jump ahead. They saw this coming with profiles and got their docs in place, first.
Sean Yates back on ESUK. I'll be he'll be hammering this debatable fact.
I'm afraid for Ricco, because he is a candidate to go the way of Pantani; outspoken, a bit tormented by failure and an overiding drive to win. Add in the fact he knows all the others are at it.......
The only question left is how many riders and teams will make Paris?
In all honesty, many of us have had our fingers in our ears, waiting for this bomb to go off.
If you have any evidence to prove this, I'd love to see it.Le Blaireau (1)0 -
SteveR_100Milers wrote:I reckon Valverde must be wearing an ironic smile.
Yup - he's just picked up another stage win!0 -
andrewgturnbull wrote:Now even after being tested, he then went on to the rampage on stages 6 and 9 - obviously he didn't expect the test to work.
Or he thought he had nothing to lose.....0 -
I wonder if there are any Olympians getting a bit nervous at the fact that this new type of rEPO is being picked up in testing. Or maybe the Chinese will turn a blind eye.
I reckon there are a whole bunch of riders in the peleton who are bricking it
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Sadly though, there are questions marks over Valverde.0
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I bet the olympics arent as harsh as the dope testers on the tour. They dont want too many scandals do they ? They did develop an EPO test in time for the Sydney games, but didnt implement it.0
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how many dopers were kicked off last years tour?0
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As far as I can recall, the casualty list from last year was: Vino, Kash, Moerni, Mayo and (not testing positive, but we all know the story) Rasmussen. Plus Astana and Cofidis left the race.
They still have a little bit to go to beat last year!Le Blaireau (1)0 -
its probably crashed with all the sudden interest.campagsarge wrote:z000m wrote:im on the sd mail out list, will be interesting to hear what they have to say this evening.
Well, you cannot get on their website, which is not too surprising.0 -
Pirahna wrote:DaveyL wrote:If you have any evidence to prove this, I'd love to see it.
Is that a serious comment?
Yes. The implication was that teams like CSC and Astana (and by association, Columbia and Garmin) are using thei anti-doping medical programmes not to combat doping, but to make sure their riders can dope and pass all the controls. At least this is they way I read it. If the OP is correct, this is incredibly serious.Le Blaireau (1)0 -
DaveyL wrote:As far as I can recall, the casualty list from last year was: Vino, Kash, Moerni, Mayo and (not testing positive, but we all know the story) Rasmussen. Plus Astana and Cofidis left the race.
They still have a little bit to go to beat last year!
Kash got caught after the tour didn't he? When he was on holiday in Turkey?0 -
I dont really understand that.
How would that help them say - use this undetectable EPO if the tests pick it up anyway ?
Theyd still get busted.0
