Now Ricco gets busted for EPO
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I'm in a dichotomy here, I'm trying to make up my mind whether this is good news or bad.
Good.
The testing is working, the "Big Names" are being caught out, they'll start to realise that it isn't worth doping anymore.
Bad.
Another "Cyclists are dopers" headline in the press, sponsors withdraw, teams go to the wall, people lose jobs, fans lose interest.
The product itself, (Micera) produced by Roche, a search on Medline shows.
" is a synthetic peptide-based erythropoietin receptor agonist that, interestingly, has no structural homology with erythropoietin, and yet is still able to activate the erythropoietin receptor and stimulate erythropoiesis"
Which means that it isn't detectable by the same tests that pick up the older forms of EPO (Eprex, Recormon or Darbopoetin)Remember that you are an Englishman and thus have won first prize in the lottery of life.0 -
Cheers all, stuck with a v slow, much-filtered work internet connection... :roll:0
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oh man! i put money on him winning and winning the white GRRRRRRR0
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From the live feed on VeloNews:
01:25 PM: Correction: Saunier Duval out
The entire Saunier Duval team has withdrawn from the 2008 Tour de France.0 -
much faster does epo make the rider?0
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When will it end???
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Congratulations to the AFLD for testing for this new form of EPO. Rumours have said some have been using new versions of the drug with impunity and now they're being rumbled.
The "Cobra" is nothing more than a worm: slimy, living dirty and seemingly without a brain.0 -
It seems to me that the cheats are sticking out like sore thumbs against the cleaner riders. If we can spot them all on this forum, then the anti-doping testers must have a pretty good idea where to look (as they seem to be doing at this years race).
Good news in the long term, short term not so brilliant.
...and another vote for tennis to up it's game...Half man, Half bike0 -
dunker wrote:much faster does epo make the rider?
I've always wondered that myself...
Be intersting to see how quick I could go on my Club 10 if I was 'EPO'ed' up.. Wonder if they sell it at Tesco...
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CSC next? Weren't Schleck and Cancallara being targetted for tests? The team looked suspiciously strong the other day...0
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Directeur sportif Joxean Fernandez Matxin was surprised as anybody. "We only found out ten minutes ago. The entire team is ceasing its operation, not only in the Tour de France."
From cyclingnews, does this mean saunier duval ard finished straight away? it suggests so, and suggests the whole team were on it?0 -
MatHammond wrote:CSC next? Weren't Schleck and Cancallara being targetted for tests? The team looked suspiciously strong the other day...
No... Please no...0 -
Got what he's always deserved, but yes again it looks bad for the sport when in fact what we are doing is catching the cheats on a greater scale than any other sport. Why are the out of competition testers not finding these results and why is it always in the tour when the scrutiny is far FAR greater from the media?0
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I have to say that it is no surprise that he was caught doping. Spanish cycling is in a right mess.0
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Gerolsteiner on a 1-2 in the King of the Mountains at the moment then!0
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I don't think it's taken to increase rider speed, just to help them recover quicker but I could be wrong. I'm sure there are more knowledgeable people out there than I.2010 Lynskey R230
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OffTheBackAdam wrote:I'm in a dichotomy here, I'm trying to make up my mind whether this is good news or bad.
Good.
The testing is working, the "Big Names" are being caught out, they'll start to realise that it isn't worth doping anymore.
Bad.
Another "Cyclists are dopers" headline in the press, sponsors withdraw, teams go to the wall, people lose jobs, fans lose interest.
The product itself, (Micera) produced by Roche, a search on Medline shows.
" is a synthetic peptide-based erythropoietin receptor agonist that, interestingly, has no structural homology with erythropoietin, and yet is still able to activate the erythropoietin receptor and stimulate erythropoiesis"
Which means that it isn't detectable by the same tests that pick up the older forms of EPO (Eprex, Recormon or Darbopoetin)
"No structural homology" just means that the 3-D shape is different. It's still (a variant of) the epo protein, but my guess is that the stuff they have attached to the epo to give it a longer half-life in the body is the handle they are using to detect it. I'd be interested to see how in fact they are detecting it though, as I'm just guessing.Le Blaireau (1)0 -
Blimey - I'd hoped that not everyone was doping on SD. Even in Festina - there were a couple of clean riders
Wonder what Virenque has to say on the french commentary ?0 -
MatHammond wrote:CSC next? Weren't Schleck and Cancallara being targetted for tests? The team looked suspiciously strong the other day...
That looked like good teamwork to me, send Chinny up the road, catch him at the top of the climb and then get him to drag you to the next climb. Cancellera was buggered at the end of the stage apparantly.0 -
Willing suspension of disbelief no longer. 0
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cougie wrote:Wonder what Virenque has to say on the french commentary ?
"oh, it was against the will of their own knowledge".0 -
stefrees wrote:Directeur sportif Joxean Fernandez Matxin was surprised as anybody. "We only found out ten minutes ago. The entire team is ceasing its operation, not only in the Tour de France."
From cyclingnews, does this mean saunier duval ard finished straight away? it suggests so, and suggests the whole team were on it?
Shite if true the whole team were on it massive consequences.0 -
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redddraggon wrote:MatHammond wrote:CSC next? Weren't Schleck and Cancallara being targetted for tests? The team looked suspiciously strong the other day...
That looked like good teamwork to me, send Chinny up the road, catch him at the top of the climb and then get him to drag you to the next climb. Cancellera was buggered at the end of the stage apparantly.
I hope so - I'm just a bit concerned given that Schleck and Cancallara were both on the list of riders being targetted. Would be bad for the sport, given they've just brought in a new sponsor etc.0 -
z000m wrote:why have the whole team left, when barlo and liquigas are still there?
Probably scared that Piepoli was next if you ask me.........0 -
z000m wrote:why have the whole team left, when barlo and liquigas are still there?
Probably because ASO know if a team is up to no good based on the initial tests. Those teams being there indicate it's not the whole squad who appear dodgy.
ASO are showing themselves to be serious in their fight. Ricco was controlled by the UCI many times in the Giro and nothing. AFLD do it, analysis in Switzerland and bingo, bust.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0
