Silly commuting racing

hopkinb

rower63 wrote:

TGOTB wrote:

... -3°G in the park this morning, more like +3°G in the City.

OK I take the bait. What does -3°G mean?

I reckon Garmin reading, so deg C would be 3 or 4 higher.

martinc

TGOTB wrote:

London-Red wrote:

One of the good things about having a dog is that the morning walk tells you exactly what you need to wear for the commute...

If you don't have a dog, alternatives include:
- Weather forecast (available on TV or Internet)
- Weather app on mobile phone
- External thermometer
- Looking out of the window (not always as precise, but ice on car windscreens this morning was a bit of a giveaway)

-3°G in the park this morning, more like +3°G in the City.

You're not wrong. I managed to do precisely none of these things:
Got up, got dressed, got bike, got to end of road.. oh bugger it's cold.

tgotb

hopkinb wrote:

rower63 wrote:

TGOTB wrote:

... -3°G in the park this morning, more like +3°G in the City.

OK I take the bait. What does -3°G mean?

I reckon Garmin reading, so deg C would be 3 or 4 higher.

^ This.

Sorry, given the recent discussion about Garmin temperature measurement I thought it was obvious...

Did we establish whether the offset is uniform/predictable? Or does it vary from one device to another?

rower63

TGOTB wrote:

hopkinb wrote:

rower63 wrote:

TGOTB wrote:

... -3°G in the park this morning, more like +3°G in the City.

OK I take the bait. What does -3°G mean?

I reckon Garmin reading, so deg C would be 3 or 4 higher.

... Did we establish whether the offset is uniform/predictable? Or does it vary from one device to another?

Good one. No we didn't establish, though my Garmin 1000 is a warranty replacement and they both have/had a 2 degree offset at lower temperatures. With my current one I suspect that the offset changes with temperature too, as it seems more accurate over about 15 degrees.

elbowloh

Did a different route this morning, as was meeting a friend, so went through Battersea Park this morning and the temperature differential was very noticeable.

Was waiting in some heavy traffic this morning with said friend at the bottom of Tottenham Court Road, the traffic in front was not moving and hadn't for at least 2 mins, but the car behind got impatient so edged forward, bumping into friend's rear wheel. I mean, wtf?

Anyway, what the fuck are the contractors (Eurovia i think) doing on TCR. One lane is already being taken by the works, then they are constantly, having deliveries by grab wagon taking up another lane... in rush hour. at one point the only open lane also has some cones in it, meaning buses couldn't get trhough. This is happening every day and at the same time, the council are sending down the road sweepers.

Can they please co-ordinate and not do this during rush-hour?

mtb-idle

A nice crisp morning and after a quick peek out the window (top tip up there, why haven't I ever thought of that*) I Goldilocks'd the kit selection but the legs weren't having it today. Almost ran out of steam approaching Canary Wharf and hauled myself up the Col du Westferry Circus in what must be my slowest time in ten years.

I'm blaming the chesty cough I have that has been lingering for days now...

*I have <sarcasm>

veronese68

TGOTB wrote:

hopkinb wrote:

rower63 wrote:

TGOTB wrote:

... -3°G in the park this morning, more like +3°G in the City.

OK I take the bait. What does -3°G mean?

I reckon Garmin reading, so deg C would be 3 or 4 higher.

^ This.

Sorry, given the recent discussion about Garmin temperature measurement I thought it was obvious...

Did we establish whether the offset is uniform/predictable? Or does it vary from one device to another?

Wasn't it Rower that first commented on the Garmin temps a couple of years ago? I'm a little disappointed he doesn't have a spreadsheet showing actual temperatures and Garmin temperatures through the year so we know difference in variance as ambient temperature changes.
Glorious, and a bit chilly, in Bushy Park this morning as well. Got the clothing spot on without the aid of a dog, used 3 out of the 4 suggestions from TGOTB. no competition as usual.

poweredbyidris

MTB-Idle wrote:

A nice crisp morning and after a quick peek out the window (top tip up there, why haven't I ever thought of that*) I Goldilocks'd the kit selection but the legs weren't having it today. Almost ran out of steam approaching Canary Wharf and hauled myself up the Col du Westferry Circus in what must be my slowest time in ten years.

I'm blaming the chesty cough I have that has been lingering for days now...

*I have <sarcasm>

No, Col du Canary was definitely covered in a treacle/tar/glue mix this morning.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

smokey_bacon

PoweredByIdris wrote:

MTB-Idle wrote:

A nice crisp morning and after a quick peek out the window (top tip up there, why haven't I ever thought of that*) I Goldilocks'd the kit selection but the legs weren't having it today. Almost ran out of steam approaching Canary Wharf and hauled myself up the Col du Westferry Circus in what must be my slowest time in ten years.

I'm blaming the chesty cough I have that has been lingering for days now...

*I have <sarcasm>

No, Col du Canary was definitely covered in a treacle/tar/glue mix this morning.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Much like the road it would seem.....

cjcp

Veronese68 wrote:

TGOTB wrote:

hopkinb wrote:

rower63 wrote:

TGOTB wrote:

... -3°G in the park this morning, more like +3°G in the City.

OK I take the bait. What does -3°G mean?

I reckon Garmin reading, so deg C would be 3 or 4 higher.

^ This.

Sorry, given the recent discussion about Garmin temperature measurement I thought it was obvious...

Did we establish whether the offset is uniform/predictable? Or does it vary from one device to another?

Wasn't it Rower that first commented on the Garmin temps a couple of years ago? I'm a little disappointed he doesn't have a spreadsheet showing actual temperatures and Garmin temperatures through the year so we know difference in variance as ambient temperature changes.
Glorious, and a bit chilly, in Bushy Park this morning as well. Got the clothing spot on without the aid of a dog, used 3 out of the 4 suggestions from TGOTB. no competition as usual.

I swear it was colder at 8am than it was when I first ventured out at 4.30. No ice on the car window at the latter, just lots of dew.

But it was still cold. The dog said as much. Still, she enjoyed her walk.

wolfsbane2k

Heh, "G" temps is something I've only just come across as I've not had a temp sensing unit before.
I'll sit mine against the calibrated thermometer overnight and see what the difference is.

The ~ 14 minutes it takes my garmin to drop to ambient after being inside always is so noticeable, that it's an indicator of the amount of hysteresis in the system - it's never going to be very accurate.

london-red

cjcp wrote:

at 4.30.

Is that a typo?

veronese68

London-Red wrote:

cjcp wrote:

at 4.30.

Is that a typo?

Imagine the dog's reaction when he woke it for a walk at that time

london-red

Veronese68 wrote:

London-Red wrote:

cjcp wrote:

at 4.30.

Is that a typo?

Imagine the dog's reaction when he woke it for a walk at that time

Poor thing.

cjcp

London-Red wrote:

Veronese68 wrote:

London-Red wrote:

cjcp wrote:

at 4.30.

Is that a typo?

Imagine the dog's reaction when he woke it for a walk at that time

Poor thing.

You're kidding?! The mutt is up and raring to go - hates being left behind. If she sees me get my trainers on, she goes and sits by the front door so I can't leave the house without her. Ran a half marathon with her back in October - she's small, but loves running. (I wasn't running this morning, btw.)

tgotb

cjcp wrote:

The mutt is up and raring to go - hates being left behind. If she sees me get my trainers on, she goes and sits by the front door so I can't leave the house without her.

A mate of mine who's a fell runner took his dog on an 18 mile training run in the hills. Since then, the dog refuses to go out of the front door with him if he's wearing running kit.

cjcp

TGOTB wrote:

cjcp wrote:

The mutt is up and raring to go - hates being left behind. If she sees me get my trainers on, she goes and sits by the front door so I can't leave the house without her.

A mate of mine who's a fell runner took his dog on an 18 mile training run in the hills. Since then, the dog refuses to go out of the front door with him if he's wearing running kit.

Gallywomack

Had an off this morning, a reminder of how unwittingly close we can be to disaster at seemingly innocuous moments.

I was riding along Bromley Road (A21) towards Catford, at the section where a lane splits off left for Canadian Avenue. At this point I always pull out into the 'main' right-hand lane to go straight on, to discourage left hooks from cars turning left onto Canadian Avenue. This morning, let a white Prius go past, then shoulder check and move out, around 5 metres or so behind him going the same speed (at a guess, around 20 - 22 mph). I started to get a tingle in my spidey sense about him, but thought it was likely that he would suddenly drift across left to take the left turn (as people often do there) so didn't think that would be a problem for me, as I'm behind him. Instead, he suddenly anchors up to let a pedestrian across who is standing on the central reservation. It was so unexpected, I was a little slow in reacting, but I managed to avoid ploughing into the back of him by swerving round to the left - but couldn't avoid clipping his left-rear quarter, put my arm up to fend him off, and went down hard. He stopped about 30 yards up the road, heard me call him a rude name, and promptly drove off again.

Bike was OK other than chain off, I was OK, slight scraping on leg and my right elbow hit the ground so was sore. My biggest worry was that my bibs might be torn around the arse area, as that is where I'd scraped, but they seemed to be alright. After a few minutes checking I was really OK (during which not a single passer-by asked if I was, I suppose that's what happens when you bellow profanities in the street) I carried on very gingerly the rest of the way.

I like to think I've got decent roadcraft and can anticipate most bits of boneheaded driving, but have to admit that was a totally unexpected one. I tend to think in terms of cars suddenly turning and/or pulling out, not sudden braking, but of course it can be just as dangerous. The unexpectedness in this case was exacerbated by the fact that it's a stretch where sudden left turns are very common, so when I did get the spidey sense, that is what I was expecting. Ah well, another scary moment survived and a bit more experience added to the memory banks.

Also, my next commuter bike will definitely have disk brakes and it's another reminder that riding around at 18 stone is less than optimal. A bit more anticipation and better stopping power and I suspect I would've stayed up.

ricky_h-2

Sorry to hear about the off and any Prius should trigger peak Spidey senses as it's invariably an Uber driver:
A) not knowing where he's going,
looking at his phone,
C) unaware of something called "the Highway code"

Gallywomack

Oh yes, he had a private hire license sticker so almost certainly an Uber driver. Partly why I was expecting something stupid from him, but doing what amounted to an emergency stop to let a pedestrian who was in a perfectly safe position across was a new one on me!

I didn't get his reg unfortunately, I expected to find him in traffic further up the road but he must have turned off somewhere as I didn't see him again.

Gallywomack

Have to laugh, the Google streetview image for that stretch of road features...a white Prius. The pedestrian was stood by that bollard in right of shot and the guy anchored up a few metres further on. You can see why it is a good idea to take the 'right' lane (really a continuation of the previous single lane) at that point, it is a prime spot for left-hooking if you don't.

wolfsbane2k

TGOTB wrote:

cjcp wrote:

The mutt is up and raring to go - hates being left behind. If she sees me get my trainers on, she goes and sits by the front door so I can't leave the house without her.

A mate of mine who's a fell runner took his dog on an 18 mile training run in the hills. Since then, the dog refuses to go out of the front door with him if he's wearing running kit.

:shock:

mtb-idle

I was taken out on the way home last night, Tuesday.

Successfully negotiated Canary Wharf, Embankment, Stockwell and the rest of CS7 and got hit 100 metres from my house in a quiet residential area.

I was in a side road getting to the junction to turn left when some guy in a white Ford Focus approaches from the right on the road I'm about to turn into and cuts the corner massively into my road. He must have been doing about 25 mph.

I mean his whole car was on my side of the road and even though I was only a metre away from the curb he hit me.

Fortunately his bonnet missed me so it wasn't a head on collision but as he continued to turn in I took a really hard hit on my right forearm and a lighter hit on my right leg from his wing.

Anyone who knows me outside of the internet will know I am usually very calm in these situations but I was screaming you faaaccckiincaaaant at the top of my voice at him as I picked myself up and walked towards his car as adrenaline courses through my body.

We exchanged details and he was very apologetic but I don't feckken care, this could easily have killed me if he had hit me slightly differently. I'm not letting this one lie.

My right forearm immediately swelled right up and I was convinced both bones were broken having had a similar feeling with my left wrist in July.

I spent five hours in A&E mostly sitting around and not leaving until 01:30 Wednesday morning but amazingly and thankfully nothing was broken, just badly bruised.

I'm off to the police tomorrow.

sgt.pepper

MTB-Idle wrote:

I was taken out on the way home last night, Tuesday.

Successfully negotiated Canary Wharf, Embankment, Stockwell and the rest of CS7 and got hit 100 metres from my house in a quiet residential area.

I was in a side road getting to the junction to turn left when some guy in a white Ford Focus approaches from the right on the road I'm about to turn into and cuts the corner massively into my road. He must have been doing about 25 mph.

I mean his whole car was on my side of the road and even though I was only a metre away from the curb he hit me.

Fortunately his bonnet missed me so it wasn't a head on collision but as he continued to turn in I took a really hard hit on my right forearm and a lighter hit on my right leg from his wing.

Anyone who knows me outside of the internet will know I am usually very calm in these situations but I was screaming you faaaccckiincaaaant at the top of my voice at him as I picked myself up and walked towards his car as adrenaline courses through my body.

We exchanged details and he was very apologetic but I don't feckken care, this could easily have killed me if he had hit me slightly differently. I'm not letting this one lie.

My right forearm immediately swelled right up and I was convinced both bones were broken having had a similar feeling with my left wrist in July.

I spent five hours in A&E mostly sitting around and not leaving until 01:30 Wednesday morning but amazingly and thankfully nothing was broken, just badly bruised.

I'm off to the police tomorrow.

Jesus, hope the b*****d loses his license.

Stay safe everyone.

cjcp

Jeez, MTB - glad it's not worse. Check out the thread in Commuting General about what to do in the event of an accident - make a note of what happened etc.

anonymousblackfg

Sorry to here you avoided the fvckwittery of CS7 only for that to happen. Fingers crossed you heal fast and he gets done on many levels. Camera footage?

Also a good thread on LFGSS, which oddly doesn't give the advice of 'D lock the cvnt'

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/131099/

Gallywomack

Jesus that must have been scary. Glad you're not too badly hurt. The worst thing is there's really nothing you could have done differently to avoid it - what a complete tool.

hopkinb

Glad you avoided worse MTB. One of those where however careful & roadcrafty you are, you can't avoid it. I assume you got good video footage which you can provide to the police?

Some kind of tailwind this morning, whoosh. Helped to ease the post Christmas party fuzziness.

mtb-idle

thanks all. I had my GoPro on the front but i wasn't actually recording. I don't record all my rides, I'm not a 'just in case' user, more for the fun edits shared previously.

I literally was 100 metres from my front door so even if I was a 'for insurance purposes' user probably would have turned it off anyway

elbowloh

Sounds fecking shit MTB. I assume you got it all on camera also?

There's no excuse for something like that, even SMIDSY, as he shouldn't be on your side of the road even if it's clear, it's just dangerous driving.

Glad you're ok.