Defence of the UK
I was just reading an article on the BBC website about the launch of the latest nuclear submarine, Astute, and it got me thinking.
What would happen to the UK if we didn't have any defence? i.e. we get rid of all army, navy, air force and associated defence mechanisms? Would we be immediately attacked by some hostile nation? Would we be bullied by other nations and our economy plummit? Would our standing in the world be immediately diminished and we'd turn into a third world state?
I'm not saying it might be a good thing or a bad thing, just interested on what people might think would happen.
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What would happen to the UK if we didn't have any defence? i.e. we get rid of all army, navy, air force and associated defence mechanisms? Would we be immediately attacked by some hostile nation? Would we be bullied by other nations and our economy plummit? Would our standing in the world be immediately diminished and we'd turn into a third world state?
I'm not saying it might be a good thing or a bad thing, just interested on what people might think would happen.
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GB is a very rich nation though, and I'm happy to have a large submarine fleet (including nuclear weapons) plodding quietly around the oceans.
Those welsh [email protected] are just waiting for us to do that.
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I thought the armed forces were to keep us all from leaving?
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Not much danger of that - they're too busy fighting among themselves in the Welsh Assembly.
Also no Army = no regimental dinners and that would probably count as the biggest cultural crime in history, therefore it must not be allowed to happen. (You can disband the RAF though; they're just civilians in blue clothes.)
If the forces were disbanded you would have to recruit a significant body to perform such actions and who for the rest of the time would be underemployed. I rather think the outcome would be an ineffective and under-resourced body who would end up being the butt of a lot of criticism.
We need them to keep workers and trade unionists (to name two categories) in their place.
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Those welsh [email protected] are just waiting for us to do that.
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Just the Welsh?
We're waiting to get our own back for oooh, all sorts of slights; real and imagined; the French will invade the SE (then promptly retreat, surrender and finally collaborate), and the place will, of course, become over-run with bogus asylum seekers who will promptly eat all your swans.
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Government policy I thought!
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by domtyler</i>
I thought the armed forces were to keep us all from leaving?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Not much danger of that - they're too busy fighting among themselves in the Welsh Assembly.
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The military are fighting in the Welsh assembly[?] What with tanks and submarines and things[?][:0]
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by domtyler</i>
I thought the armed forces were to keep us all from leaving?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Not much danger of that - they're too busy fighting among themselves in the Welsh Assembly.
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The military are fighting in the Welsh assembly[?] What with tanks and submarines and things[?][:0]
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Fortunately they only use hot air.
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Which hot air has resulted in the scrapping of top-up tuition fees, free prescriptions for everyone, free bus travel for all pensioners, increased aid to farmers during the F&M crisis...
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And who pays for it?
Molon Labe.
Molon Labe.
if i had a better signature, i'd use that instead
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TimDanaher</i>
Which hot air has resulted in the scrapping of top-up tuition fees, free prescriptions for everyone, free bus travel for all pensioners, increased aid to farmers during the F&M crisis...
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And who pays for it?
Molon Labe.
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Probably Kent Tories who pay taxes to make sure that Wales returns lots of Labour MPs.
Or German.
Maybe Cantonese.
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Which hot air has resulted in the scrapping of top-up tuition fees, free prescriptions for everyone, free bus travel for all pensioners, increased aid to farmers during the F&M crisis...
Cheers,
Tim
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Indeed, the luxury of being a devolved government that has powers to spend taxpayers' money, but not to raise it. If they are made accountable to the electorate for the money they take, as well as the money they give, then I suspect their priorities may become somewhat different.
Or we could retract to a self defence force, become neutral ourselves, cease to police the world, and concentrate on peaceful trade and banking, a bit like Switzerland. Taxation would be a lot less too.
What would happen? We'd end up selling ourselves out to some other government, possibly based in Brusse....oh, hang on...
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Unlike say, selling ourselves (and our defence) out to the Americans, which is what we've done since WW2... that's so much more independent. We only paid off our post-war debts last year, our 'independent' nuclear deterent can't be lauched without their say-so, and we are obliged to supply the USA with all the signals intelligence gathered by GCHQ (amongst other things...).
I'd rather be European than an American lap-dog.
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tourist Tony</i>
What would happen? We'd end up selling ourselves out to some other government, possibly based in Brusse....oh, hang on...
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Unlike say, selling ourselves (and our defence) out to the Americans, which is what we've done since WW2... that's so much more independent. We only paid off our post-war debts last year, <b>our 'independent' nuclear deterent can't be lauched without their say-so</b>, and <b>we are obliged to supply the USA with all the signals intelligence gathered by GCHQ </b>(amongst other things...).
I'd rather be European than an American lap-dog.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
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I detect a bit of economy with the truth in this.
I don't know to what extent you're right about the nuclear deterrent but it would be nice to see some proper proof.
As for the second, there is a sharing agreement between the Brits and yanks on certain areas of that material, which means that nothing like all the stuff which the Brits collect gets passed on to them.
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tourist Tony</i>
What would happen? We'd end up selling ourselves out to some other government, possibly based in Brusse....oh, hang on...
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Unlike say, selling ourselves (and our defence) out to the Americans, which is what we've done since WW2... that's so much more independent. We only paid off our post-war debts last year, our 'independent' nuclear deterent can't be lauched without their say-so, and we are obliged to supply the USA with all the signals intelligence gathered by GCHQ (amongst other things...).
I'd rather be European than an American lap-dog.
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
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I'd rather not be a lap-dog at all-neither Euro nor Yank.
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