Seemingly trivial things that annoy you

First.Aspect · January 13

The latest Honda HRV is being marketed as a "Full Hybrid".

What next, a pure bred mongrel?

diplodicus · January 13

https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21111390#Comment_21111390

For pure bred mongrel see cockerpoo, caverpoo and many others😀

kingstongraham · January 13

So "Full Hybrid" is one where it can operate purely under electric power, but all the electricity in the battery is generated by the car, with no option to plug it in.

If you drive in the city all the time, there's no reduction in emissions at all, is there, just a heavier vehicle? And it generates all the electricity from fossil fuel.

Even within the bounds of bad naming of a hybrid as being full anything, it's misleading to say the "Full" version is one that is missing one piece of functionality.

First.Aspect · January 13

https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21111486#Comment_21111486

I am in full agreement.

ddraver · January 13

It's exactly the sort of thing Ma & Pa raver would want as their Toyota WD40 yawnsmobile thing doesn't work longer than a minute or two on battery.

It also solves a problem for people who live in places where at home charging is not an option.

I'll stick with my Fiat500/vespa with a lid but I get it.

kingstongraham · January 13

https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21111516#Comment_21111516

What problem does it solve that a petrol car doesn't?

ddraver · January 13

Will be available for sale in the UK after 2030...

kingstongraham · January 14

That's not really an answer, is it? Also, it's not clear even if it's true yet.

Jezyboy · January 14

Isn't full hybrid just the standard hybrid approach that Toyota have been doing for years with the Prius etc.

Advantage is that when you brake you're recapturing the energy rather than turning it straight to heat.

monkimark · January 14

Do regenerative brakes only work at higher speeds?

First.Aspect · January 14

https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/comment/21111537#Comment_21111537

I think all hybrids do this. Even a 2007 BMW does this. The key differences are the extent of energy recovery and that the energy can be used for propulsion.

I have never been convinced it is any better than a frugal engine in a lighter car. I drove one of the mild hybrid Fiat 500s for a week in Portugal and although it was very fuel efficient, I put most of that down to how dangerously underpowered it was (for the autoroutes).

I presume that mild hybrid means the engine is always needed, regardless of how the battery is charged (i.e. just regenerative braking or also using alternator), full hybrid means sometimes electricity only with the battery being charged via regenerative braking or alternator, plug in hybrid is what we would sensibly call a full hybrid.

The all will be available after 2030, but I assume mild hybrid would be first to be phased out.