US Politics / Biden thread
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Four years is a long time for a brain that's decomposing before our very eyes. It's going to be interesting to see how more incoherent he gets, though, to be honest, I don't think it'll make a great difference if he gets taken away in a straitjacket, as he's only ever been the orange figurehead for an extensive network of white Christian nationalists, and they've got Vance waiting in the wings with the same support and encouragement.
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There must be a different musk out there somewhere than this one who just wants people to like him.
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Public speaking is a skill I really admire, but not when it's just a load of shit just to fill the time.
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Wonder if the two term limit is under threat.
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As far as I can see the vice president is really really dangerous.
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Well, if he packs the SC any more, I suspect nothing's off the table, though it might be more of a question of how he can install his family as a permanent feature rather than him trying to hold his brain together for more than four years.
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That's the 22nd amendment. Would need 38 states to approve it changing.
But I suppose he could just ignore it and see what happens.
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Yep, he got caught up in the situation there. It was very different, considered and measured when he was public campaigning in different states.
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"I want to pay less tax. Also, please like me and tell me I'm brilliant and funny."
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On a more positive note, this might slap the EU and particularly Germany out of their complacency with regard to security.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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He'll be 82 by the end of his tenure. It's just too damn old, he should be enjoying a round of golf. This isn't a slight on the more mature, just that the number one job in a Country should be held by someone in their prime.
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I think it might just be the comparison with Trump's gibberish that flatters Musk. Being able to speak in complete sentences is quite a low hurdle.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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"Also if you could sort me out with some more fat government contracts that'd be awesome."
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0 -
Well, at least this confirms that American is no ones friend, all they think about is themselves. We need to reach out economically to more like minded liberal states, like China.
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I'm not convinced he will survive for 4 years. One way or another.
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It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, happens in the next two months before the Orange Lunatic takes over... will everyone just be retreating to their bunkers, or will there be any efforts to sneak in some constraints?
Looks like Republicans will keep HoR too, so no budgetary leverage likely to be applied once Trump is in.
Genuinely interesting what Kennedy will do with public health if he really does get that portfolio - they'd best be hoping that there's no pandemic, for starters.
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Looks like a few Cake Stop pollsters called it wrong...
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]1 -
Unfortunately, surviving is the one thing he’s good at. Fingers crossed though.
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Got any more top tips for us? 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]3 -
I knew Rory Stewart being confident in a Harris victory was a bad sign.
It's really fascinating seeing the number of people who STILL don't understand that they live in a bubble.
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no such thing as friends in international relations
bad day for usa peoples' rights and uk/europe overall, but as we saw with brexit, plenty of turkeys will vote for christmas
on the plus side, no insurrection or civil war, markets up, good for me, on my third bubbly and we've not taken off yet
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I did have a mad thought the other day about what could happen with a Trump win.
Would California ever consider leaving the union, particularly if Trump gets even more batshit crazy?
If it were a separate country it would have the 5th biggest economy in the world, so could potentially stand on its own.
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Nothing Putin would like more than for the US to split up. The craziness of the dynamic is that I think poor Red states would happily secede from the progressive and wealthy metropolitan states without thinking through the economic consequences (cf Brexit-voting areas).
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there's also his rather creepy 'have more babies' obsession
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Nobody likes high inflation and this will always reflect on the incumbent. I think Trump voters are bound to be disappointed when his harebrained ideas on tariffs bite them. Think there are a lot of parallels with Labour's win in the UK
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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I think labours win is more like Bidens actually, in being a temporary stay of execution before politics becomes permanently populist.
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Also interesting how the Dems respond to this - that an elderly white male succeeded in 2020 where much younger women failed in 2016 and 2024 (against an elderly white male) might lead one to suspect that a large proportion of the US electorate as a whole isn't (shall we say) receptive to having a female President.
But also lots of other dynamics to consider - what to make of the Latino support for Trump?... it's quite the paradox.
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Why would Latino American citizens have a different opinion on illegal immigration than other Americans?
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I was one of them, got it spectacularly wrong. I hate to admit it but the America I knew and studied for several years is gone (for the moment at least). I thought they had got back to normal 4 years ago but it seems not.
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I still can't see it here, but I was wrong about Trump so who knows!
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