2024 Transfer Rumours (and confirmed signings)

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553

    He was rumoured to be signing for Ineos before the Vuelta started, as a long term replacement for Jonathan Castroviejo.

  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,438

    Sorry think that was my bad, today's news article was Cummings being replaced by Kurt Bogaerts for the ToB, not permanently (which was how I initially read it)

  • Is that not part of the DSM moneyball model though with the expectation that decent riders will be bought out for transfer fees rather than see out their contract?

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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,656

    Jacopo Guarnieri retires, and yeah, that's how to do a retirement video


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  • r0bh
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    Daniel Benson reporting that Trinity Racing might fold at the end of the year if they can't find a major sponsor

  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,198

    Ah, somebody on a Reddit thread mentioned that a few months ago - which I thought surprising. However, they're not really sponsored; Specialized supplies them, and interestingly, they have both Shimano & Sram groupsets. Would be a massive loss as they've provided so much talent.

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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    edited September 6

    Yep, as you say, dropped the last man. Impressive at the finish but he had a lot of help there. I hope Ineos didn't take it into account when signing him. For perspective, when Ayuso took it off Vingegaard (whose KOM was also achieved via a Coloquick TTT), it was toward the end of a hard 180km training ride.

    Any idea what is happening with Theodor Storm? No races at all in 2024 as far as I can see. Is he injured?


  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985

    Good shout on Storm, recall him being signed, but not a single event for him in 2024, surely must be injured, or unable to ride for some reason.

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  • roscoe
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    Surely a perfect opportunity for Ineos to step in and support them. They're crying out for a development team.

  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    That makes so much sense. Therefore, it is bound not to happen.

  • Isn't one of the McQuaids involved with Trinity in some way?

    The agent one, who has a number of Ineos riders on his books? Andrew, I think his name is?

    Surely there's a way for the team to carry on, but then maybe this was foretold as Pete Kennaugh seems to have lined a different job up

  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 526

    Yes, Andrew McQuaid.

    What an opportunity for Ineos to send young riders to domestic races.

  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985
    edited September 6

    They could also rebrand them as The Ineos Guardsmen :-)

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  • andyrac
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    Yes, the team was set up originally for Pidcock as TP Racing after he left Telenet, and Team Wiggins folded. Since then they became Trinity Racing, and they've had some major talents pass through, whether onto the WT, or into top level MTB.

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  • DeadCalm
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    Just to follow up on this, I believe Ineos, Red Bull, Jayco, EF and Movistar are the only WT teams without development squads.

    Movistar seem to barely have any interest in U23s, instead relying on picking up the best from the Spanish pro tour teams with predictable degrees of success.

    Jayco and EF both seem to have their fingers on the pulse of the U23 scene and are adept at picking up decent riders overlooked by the other teams. This works for their more modest ambitions but is unlikely to bag them a top, top talent.

    Red Bull are starting an U23 squad from next year and going for it in a big way if the rumours are to be believed. They have realised that if you want to attract the cream of the crop, you need to identify the best riders at junior level and get them to sign to your development squad. Yes, there are riders (Evenepoel and possibly Withen Philipsen) who are capable of going straight to the pros from the juniors but they are few and far between. Most need at least a year riding U23 level.

    Ineos seem to have realised that they need to find the riders when they are young as evidenced by their spate of recent signings. Their ability to spot talent seems questionable to me but the even bigger problem is that they aren't able to give these youngsters a race schedule that would best suit them.

    So, yes, I agree that a tie-up between Ineos and Trinity would seem a perfect solution.

  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553

    Jayco are a co-sponsor of Hagens Berman Jayco (big hint there), Axel Merckx's development squad.

  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249

    As I understand it, there is "an arrangement" in place between the teams rather that HBJ being a full on dev squad. I'm not sure what that amounts to, possibly placing riders like Alastair Mackellar and Hamish McKenzie in the HBJ squad, maybe? Actually, a similar arrangement between Ineos and Trinity, with Ineos providing enough money to keep Trinity afloat, might be a perfect solution.

    In any event, it further emphasises just how out of touch Ineos are having no U23 squad.

  • No_Ta_Doctor
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    There's assumption of an illness, but it's all been kept very quiet and I wouldn't want to speculate. Danish cycling media has also respected that. He's back riding his bike now though.

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  • andyp
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    Another Trinity supported rider joins the pro ranks, as Imogen Wolff signs for Visma-Lease a Bike.

  • andyrac
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    And Junior XCO World Champion Viktoria Chladonova also joins Visma; the team where MTB careers end........

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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    edited September 9

    Ineos have apparently tried (but failed) to steal l'Avenir runner up Pablo Torres from UAE. That's the sort of signing they should be looking at but, without a U23 team, is going to be extremely difficult to make.

    Edit: I've just seen that Paul Seixas isn't confirmed to be staying at Decathlon. If I were Ineos, I'd be all over that situation.

  • andyp
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    Oier Lazkano confirmed to be leaving Movistar for Red Bull-Bora-Hansgrohe on a two year deal.

  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553

    Pablo Torres, who very nearly won the Tour de l’Avenir on the Finestre, is likely to be joining the UAE World Tour team next season. He’s been riding for their development team, and was expected to turn pro in a year or two, but it now looks like it’ll happen sooner. Ineos made him an offer, but it sounds like he wants to stay with UAE.

  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,553

    Not a rider transfer, but Daniel Benson is reporting that Luke Rowe will be joining Decathlon-AG2R as a DS for next season.

  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    edited September 16

    Well that's surprising. Does Ineos not need him at all? Would have seemed like a no brainer.

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  • Pross
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    Might not be a bad thing, you can sometimes be too close going into management at a team where you've just been one of the 'players'.

  • roscoe
    roscoe Posts: 526

    Ineos need fresh ideas and input, I’m not sure promoting a rider that’s been there for 13 years would have brought that.

  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,985

    Could be from both sides, but maybe with everything he can see happening over the last few years, and potentially being more aware of it over the last few months having not ridden, he has decided he needs a total new team to work with.

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  • daniel_b
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    Just watched some of a Simon Yates interview - he took a paycut to go to VLAB.

    I was one of the people who thought he had gone there for one final big payday, so monumentally wrong there 🤣


    Good luck to him, he's clearly still very driven, and sometimes I think a change of scene / approach is a requirement.

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