Today's discussion about the news
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Think it's not that complicated: if the risk of your child not making it to adulthood is very low there's less incentive to have more than one or two.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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I heard the other day it is something to with miserable cat ladies.
Kittens are cuter than babies, and don’t ask worrying questions about world wars, forest fires, rising sea levels, carbon emissions, knife crime, school shootings………
A lot of kittens grow up to be mass killers tho’….🤔
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Maybe he just thinks The Streets are a bit naff. I'd have to agree. 😉
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
No, I added an extra point to the one in the article. Sorry if that made it a bit difficult for you to understand.
If there's anything else about the wealthy leaving the country because of Labour that you're confused about, just let me know 😉
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
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Worried about your future? Blame the younger generation for not manning up. 🤣
Your transition is nearing completion.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
How generous you are with your fortune telling wisdom.
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Good to see you're not trying to argue against the point I made.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
you're not arguing against the point he made
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Ah, so it's your generations fault? Ask around as to why.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Well my theory would be the great housing problem but it’s obviously not because these things are just as bad in places where housing is not a problem.
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For a population but no* prospective parent has ever weighed up the contribution to the overall birthrate as part of their decision.
* Apart from those weirdo pro-natalists.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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So that's that theory shot down. You'll have to ask your cohorts as my generation did their bit.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Are the 2023 numbers the flipside of a post covid 2022 baby boom? Obviously I'm aware that typically the long term trend isn't fantastic, but I'd be wary of picking a single year, particularly close to an event like covid.
My pure anecdotal experience is that NHS maternity services are all complaining how busy they are ATM.
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Meh, there were enough births that they were close to running out of beds
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Again, that is just an indicator the nhs is on its knees.
eg it was very busy when my son was born but that’s because a lot of places that could take some kind of emergency children now can’t so all the sick babies get sent to our local, even if it’s 2 and a half hours away
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FWIW, when I was born my Mum was in hospital for 3 weeks. No medical reason, just to help her learn how to look after her first newborn, as well as give some recuperation. Times have changed!
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The care is so bad the fathers are expected to be there to care, but no provision is made for the men which creates all sorts of problems for both the mothers and the fathers. Wards are too small, women feel on show when they’re vulnerable, sleep deprived men marching about trying to lobby on behalf of their family for the rationed care. It’s a nightmare.
Can assure you 3 sleepness nights on the trot where you can only sleep in an upright chair on the ward with all the other families and babies, trying to explain to the staff that you think your baby is seriously ill but they won’t listen to you because “it’s all about breastfeeding” is as stressful as it sounds.
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That's never been the norm I don't think. Ok they weren't first born in our family but I remember my gran coming down from Scotland to babysit us when my younger twin brothers were born and it was for a couple of days at most.
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I made the point, but I'm sure he'll thank you for trying to help him when he was struggling.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Maybe localised, and maybe for a limited period but it was normal at the time.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Maybe already having 3 kids made a difference in my mum's case .
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America has massive problems of it's own but it's hard to argue against that bottom post.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Very possibly as in a maternity hospital education/training was the reason for the long stay. You'd have to ask about her first newborn.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
The slowing down of the birthrate has been going on for many years across most "advanced" civilisations and perversely seems to be tied fairly closely with the wealth of the average person. I don't see this as a bad thing, there are far too many people in this world already, however capitalism will need to make some big adjustments. In particular it will need to revise the model where future growth is assumed to allow investment. I'm no economist but it looks like a circle that can't be squared.
I can't see how this can be resolved, capitalism is such a strong force that it will drive expansion of the population until the planet is destroyed. The UK, like most Western countries, is filling the gaps left by an ageing and shrinking local population with immigration from regions with a high birth rate which has its own societal issues as graphically demonstrated over the past week or so.
It makes me laugh when the right-wing politicians keep telling us how they are going to control immigration when the people who are funding them are so dependent upon immigration to maintain their way of life.
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I think you'd struggle to find a single state on the planet that doesn't regularly tick several of those boxes. You all have totally unrealistic expectations of how well a state can function. Two commentators childishly slagging off each other's countries doesn't prove or disprove anything.
By the way if 17% of GDP is "no industry to speak of" the US is only on 24%. Hardly night and day. And "yeah, our riots are only about race and police brutality, not immigration" is hardly a brag.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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We're all dependent on immigration to maintain our way of life.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition0
