Today's discussion about the news
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They pay tax on their UK income.
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UK is seeing an exodus of wealthy people along with China. That isn’t good news, but it’s not overnight. It’s been dwindling for a while, since Brexit.
2 parts of the story Tories won’t mention, 1) some of it just brexit related finance departures, and 2) lot of wealthy people worry about crime in London. Big increase in muggings for expensive watches and increase in the violence of said muggings. Is quite the talk of the conspicuously opulent
Inside London’s battle against luxury watch theft
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Excuse me, they're not watches, they're timepieces!
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Meh, use a phone me self.
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They steal those too!
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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I see the rioting judgements are coming down hard on all sides which is good. I was worried it might add ammunition to the far right if they were seen to get punished harder than counter-protestors.
One potential issue with the stiff sentencing I suppose is that it may stop people pleading guilty and they’ll then go through the lengthy trial process which will take around 18 months to get to court and cost much more. Hopefully anyone going down that route will get the maximum possible sentence if convicted.
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BBC showing their incompetence with the Huw Edwards stuff. Why didn’t they suspend him without pay considering the severity of claims against him? Now it’s “would you mind awfully giving us back the money we paid you as you gave a pinky promise you hadn’t done anything wrong?”.
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tax payers are on the hook to pay lying and/or traitorous and/or corrupt and/or incompetent politicians for their allowances, security, pensions etc. - johnson, truss, farage et al.
no issue with them going after edwards, but why is there one rule for him and another for the people who make the rules...
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Haha. Andrew Neil trying to have it both ways with Islamophobe Douglas Murray... apparently a 'freelance' associate editor of the Spectator.
I think that the oft-quoted photo of Neil in a vest with a rather younger female would be more dignified than his current status.
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As you should well know, Labour are planning tax rises apart from those on non doms and that is a reason for a number of wealhy taxpayers leaving the UK. Do you get it now?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Except that they do. There are other taxes in case.you hadn't noticed.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
It's not news in that it was entirely predictable that a Labour attempt to raise taxes would end up backfiring.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Loyalty is irrelevant here. Unfortunately Labour are about to learn that trying to increase taxes in this way without considering the response of what we refer to as mobile capital will not have the desired result of actually increasing tax revenues.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So the point was something other than the link you posted, mainly just an assumption of yours. Got it.
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He should just say it's a legitimate conversation to have and Murray has a legitimate point of view, end of. Maybe get some writers with alternative views as balance.
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He advocates state repression of Islam. Specifically in that interview he suggests a pogrom is justified and if the state will not do this then the public should. I'm not sure how that counts as legitimate. The Equality Act 2010 says you must not be discriminated against because you are (or are not) of a particular religion, so we've had that conversation and arrived at a conclusion.
He's also deluded - like the rest of the hard right - about the levels of public support for his position.
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Opinion shifts. The other day you claimed people had had the opportunity to vote for reduced immigration if they wanted it - they did when the Tory manifesto promised to reduce it to tens of thousands - it rose to 750k
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I'm really not sure how it's a legitimate conversation to have. Advocating for the violent removal of a religion is miles away from a sensible argument.
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If he has said that then he will be arrested anyway
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The size of the crowds at the recent counter protests would seem to give some indication of relative support. There were one to two orders of magnitude difference.
Worth noting that the Conservative party severed any connection with Murray over a decade ago for obvious reasons.
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Bit weird that you're defending it as a legitimate point of view if you haven't listened to what he said.
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Not really I'm posting on a cycling forum not writing my autobiography. I would be surprised if The spectator has published an article calling for pogroms though !
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World is going to pot? Leaving it too late? Medical (sperm count)? Enjoying life and choose not to?
You'd have to ask the relevant age group.
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I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
I think it's a pretty clear indication that the majority don't want their town smashed up by a small number of racist thugs. Every fringe group likes to imagine they have a 'silent majority' of support but they never seem to be able to mobilise them.
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You won’t have had more than about 3% of the local population on the street for any given event in the last fortnight.
Crowd size chat is about on Trump’s level.
Who knew that rioters and looters were unpopular? I didn’t really need to see a crowd to work that out.
Then again, in Britain, I struggle to take anyone who discusses the “streets” as territory seriously.
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No point bringing a new generation into a doomed planet? Millennials to self-obsessed?
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I'd suggest 3% of the population of a town in one place is quite significant. Attitudes surveys back up the general pattern of the crowds.
Plenty have claimed that the riots are just an expression of wide spread public sentiment - legitimate concerns over levels of immigration - rather than just straightforward racism.
I'm not really clear what you mean by the last bit.
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