Olympics 2024

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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,887
    edited August 2024

    Did you not post earlier that DSD athletes made up 50% of the top six in the 800 metres in Rio. Of course the 4th, 5th and 6th lost out due to the 3 DSD athletes, but under chromosome qualification, the 3 DSD athletes are effectively banned from professional sport (and probably elite level amateur sport). With a bonus prize of being publicly humiliated as not a real woman. I'm not sure what benefit the other 99.9...% of womankind derive from this, but either way, someone loses out.

    Professional athletes are about 3 per 10000 of the general population Google says about 17500 in the UK). The vast majority of us are never going to be anything more than local club level at which the presence of a handful of unidentified DSD competitors makes no meaningful difference to anyone's enjoyment. We are talking about a very small number of people that this affects and there is no option that affects nobody.

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  • Mad_Malx
    Mad_Malx Posts: 5,188

    Taekwando scoring is pretty baffling to me

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,280

    If you get kicked in the face that's bad.

  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,078

    Especially if there is a twirl involved.

  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,064
    edited August 2024
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,445

    Thought this was quite interesting this morning. As usual, boiling it down to black and white doesn't really work.

    Completely apart from the sporting side, some of the examples given there seemed profoundly sad, especially in today's climate with TERFs and whatnot.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    Gusty wind seemed to make things tough for the heptathletes in the long jump but in the end Thiam made no significant gain (1cm further than KJT).

    Women’s 4x400m relay underway. The world record is still owned by the USSR from 1988. I know it doesn’t get run much and teams maybe don’t practice it much but that is crazy.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,280

    I've just seen The Telegraph quote the "Research also shows biological males punch around “162 per cent” harder than females" so went to find where it is from.

    It's a study of 20 men and 19 women, with a moderate to high level of physical activity, using arm cranking over 3-4 seconds as a proxy for punching power, and specifically "did not include subjects who responded that they lift weights more than three times per week, participated in body building, or trained regularly in martial arts."

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    British girl on the last leg made it hard for herself by trying to overtake going around the bend and getting stuck there rather than just waiting for the straight but gets through. The Belgian inexplicably moved across to let the French through to take the last automatic spot.

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    The whole gender thing is getting silly now. The Irish aren’t even trying to hide it and have a bloke called Phil running in their relay team.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,280
    edited August 2024

    They're taking the piss all over the place.


  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,582

    A long standing record by the USSR in the '80s? 🤔 Don't think you need to be a genius to figure that one out.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    Sticking a 16 year old on leg one looked a risk.

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,887

    Lol.

    Absolutely unsurprised.

    There's a quote in that BBC article above that there is essentially not enough data to determine DSD athletes actually have an advantage. It's an inference from non-DSD athletes.

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,460

    Vlad, Dimitri, Anatoly and Igor will be in the stadium tonight watching.

  • That was just about an entire “B” team GB put out, so the gambled and it very nearly came to grief.

    That’s not a great result for KJT in the long jump, as she usually beats (but not always) Thiam.

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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,445
    edited August 2024

    There's also various types of DSD, so lumping them all together doesn't really help. I.e., more than one type of XY chromosome disorder, some of which seems like they definitely would confer an advantage and some that definitely don't (i.e., they are XY but the Y is not a normal male Y chromosome, the description makes it sound like more of a misformed X chromosome). And some who have elevated testosterone but are completely insensitive to it.

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,887

    Exactly. To read some commentators you would think it is already settled and it's just the IOC being woke. It doesn't seem like we have even confirmed the prevalence of the various types of DSD, let alone measured what impact that might have on athletic performance and compared that to the advantages conferred by other non-sex related chromosomal and genetic variation.

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    Gold In climbing, made for a really good watch

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    The heptathlon is really nicely balanced. Shame KJT couldn’t get a slightly longer jump in the long jump as the gap is possibly a little bit too big but the 800m won’t be a procession for anyone.

  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,590

    Gold in the climbing!

    Wilier Izoard XP
  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,590

    Whoops too late with my reporting!

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  • That and also she under performed in the 200m.

    Historically, two of her best events have opened the door and Thiam walked straight through.

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  • Women track sprinters now matching the men’s flying 200 qualifying times of about 8 years ago.

    NWR set today and that’s with hundredths of breaking the 10 second barrier.

    Astonishing.

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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,078

    Climbing was definitely more entertaining than the diving.

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,460

    I've just found out that rapping is now an Olympic sport.

    I've not got the sound on but that's what it looks like anyway.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,280

    I just watched two rounds of the breaking, and am happy to report that for three out of the four women involved it looked like solo greco-roman wrestling.

    The fourth spent a couple of minutes doing the most incredible headspins, handspins etc. I think she was criticised for having planned in advance what she was going to do.

    Snoop Dogg was there earning today's $500k.

  • I accidentally turned it on, saw a woman writhing on the ground and thought that someone was having an epileptic fit.

    What is next to become an Olympic sport, I wonder? Speed graffiti maybe, or perhaps synchronised brick throwing…..

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,678

    Heard something earlier that viewing figures of the athletics are massively up this year in the US and that Snoop is seen as a huge part of that increased interest

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,460

    You know, I think Rioting would make a good team sport.

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