2024 UK politics - now with Labour in charge
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Do these journos actually live in the UK?
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I don't know. There's something to be said for a fairly well paid job where you get paid for every hour you are in a building. Given the choice I wonder if GPs would now prefer that model than the pay per treatment model the greedy bastard previous generation pushed for.
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I don’t know a single doctor that isn’t forced into huge overtime due to lack of staffing and I know a few. Tbf I increasingly don’t know them as they always are working when we’re socialising
well I know one but he went to Australia the second he qualified in London
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Are you referring to payment by results which was introduced by providers rather than the primary care trusts I.e. GPs if not forget it.🤷🏼♂️
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Strange, but people don't fall ill only between 9 am and 5 pm. Also those in hospital don't only need care between those hours. Doctors have always had to either work, or be on-call through anti-social hours, just like vets. It goes with the job and they all know that when they enter the profession. Not dis-similar from any job that works shift patterns.
I'm staggered how you fit your own life into 24 hours each day.
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I don’t know how it works now but 8 years ago before I retired, junior doctors working for the consultant in the community or out patients would spend all day doing clinics. Then have to go and admit patients to wards out of hours or be on call for ward emergencies through out the night. You may be prepared to put up with this as it’s what you need to to do to get to the top but not every doctor does get the top. Then you get a lot of highly skilled but not quite at the top doctors who are stuck on not great pay. Who think why should I bother so they go abroad or end up as GP’s😉
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Wouldn't this be largely popular?
"Labour is plotting a fresh crackdown on landlords with plans for stricter rules on evictions and requirements for costly eco-refurbishment.
Ministers are considering bringing in French-style “hardship tests” that would have to be carried out before they could tenants, effectively banning evictions in cases where renters were found to be worse off, The Telegraph understands.
Housing minister Matthew Pennycook is understood to support the idea, already in use in France to reduce homelessness.
The Government also wants to bring back energy efficiency requirements which would require landlords to make green upgrades to their homes with potentially uncapped costs, according to sources involved in the talks.
It has raised fears of a fresh “war on landlords” who have come under increasing pressure from red tape and tax rule changes over the past decade, including the loss of tax breaks on mortgage interest and the introduction of stamp duty surcharges under former Conservative chancellor George Osborne.
It comes as the Government pushes forward with a proposed ban on no-fault evictions – a former Conservative manifesto pledge included in a Renters Reform Bill which failed to reach Royal Assent before the general election following a backlash from landlord Tory MPs."
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This is fine and worthy but only works with more houses being built in areas where people need it!
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It’s something I’m torn on. It can be harsh if you’re a landlord with a bad tenant and you can’t get rid of them to bring in another person needing a home who may be better. Equally tenants need security that they aren’t going to get turfed out on a whim.
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All that will happen with rentals is landlords will sell up or massively increase rents. Some houses just can't be converted to be energy efficient without spending huge amounts - many tens of thousands of pounds. If you are renting out a house for say £8k a year - and have expenses and tax to pay out of that - and get told you need to pay £30k plus to upgrade the property what are you gonna do? If the govt wants a subsidised social housing sector then the govt will have to pay for it
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Without turning this into a generational moan, I'm noticing our new graduates are far less likely to think it's acceptable to have slightly shoddy working conditions. Stuff like travelling in your own time etc.
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Quite right too. If you're doing work related stuff then you should be on the clock.
Don't know why it would be a generational moan as most oldies disagree with unpaid overtime too. Seems to be just high flyers who think it's acceptable in their race to the top. FWIW "work" and "career" are two different things.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
It’s just jealousy. When I was junior it was so hard to get a job you had to do long hours just to keep it.
I see chairs spinning at 5:25 and I wish I could have had that time to enjoy my life!
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Not sure I see that changing any time soon.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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I'm going to suggest that was a choice as you are pursuing your career instead of just wanting a job as a means to an end.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Don't think that clock watching isn't noticed.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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Sure but we really struggle to replace juniors and it’s very costly to do so, so the same bosses who mentioned in my reviews that leaving at 6 was early now tell me not to mention it to juniors who leave at 5:20 because they fear they’ll just go somewhere else!
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It's possibly progress. The last thing the world needs is managers who believe in making things miserable for their juniors because 'it never did them any harm'.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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But you've said in the past that the Telegraph posts a load of old rubbish. So why is this article suddenly spot on for you?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
That's how it came across.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
The article does make a valid point that by capitulating and paying off the hunger doctors, Labour is sending a signal to the unions that striking pays.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
I've already posted several others. Take your pick. Or continue pretending that markets don't apply to public employees.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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And as I've said above, Australia has a shortage of medics, otherwise why would they be recruiting from overseas? Bit of a merry go round in the end. And the UK is enough of a draw for overseas folks as you can see by the immigration figures. That includes professionals - certainly based on what I see in London corporates that is no shortage of Australian or other Southern Hemisphere professionals in the UK.
There is always an element of 'the grass is greener' in peoples thinking about going to live/work overseas.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Agree it's not a profession I would choose. I look at at in terms of the f* up factor - i.e. if you **** up, what are the consequences? For me its making my company and it's shareholders worse off; for a doctor it's often causing pain, suffering or death. I wouldn't want that hanging over me every day, whichever country I was working in.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Yes, most developed economies rely on immigration to fill their labour markets. Doctors particularly are in demand. We don't train enough to meet that demand and while we do attract some, other countries offer more, hence the highly regarded training that we do provide ends up as an export. Yes, sometimes - as in your field - we have the advantage and there's a draw the other way.
If we want enough doctors, we need to train more or import more by offering better terms than the competition. Both involve more public spending and the latter is quicker. Pretending that you can just stall an in-demand and mobile workforce is just fantasy.
This is just a scaled up version of what would happen if a small company kept telling its staff that pay rises couldn't be afforded: eventually everyone leaves and there is no business. It only works if there aren't better opportunities elsewhere, and there are.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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These are young people who are still career minded, they are just also more protective of their work life balance.
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Yeah. That balance is easy to get at either end but more tricky in the middle.
I'd agree with them. Each to their own, as long as extra hours is not enforced.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0
