LEAVE the Conservative Party and save your country!

But the Con-ables have all effed off to Niggly Fartrage land.

I do wonder how many of the residual increasingly aged party members would vote for another wumman who doesn't Thatcher cosplay like Thick Lizzy Lettucehead or that imitation sword wielder Mordaunt (oh hang on, issues there) and whose skin tone wouldn't reach a compatible shade of gammon?

It's worked before - Boris being the example. I think it's fair to say that the views in the Cake Stop bubble are not in line with the wider voting public.

Bullshitting might get an 80-seat majority as a one-off, but it fucked the country, which is why Labour now have an 180-seat majority. I'm not sure how you are defining success, or what you think the Tory Party should be doing now. Winding up lefties and doing little else probably isn't the most -far-sighted policy, either for the country, or even what's left of the Tory Party.

I think Badenoch would be as electorally successful as Corbyn, FWIW. She certainly hasn't even got the (dubious) charm of Johnson, and, shall we say, I don't think she's going to attract too many Reform voters.

Wahey! 😆

He was infinitely better at it than Badenoch. He also had the sense not to get all pissy when called out on the bullshit.

Maybe I've been taking it too literally when I ve heard all the centre lefties saying 'f*** the Tories'?

I'm still not sure Stevo's taken the scale of the defeat in, and thinks it's just meano centre lefties in CS who dislike the Tories so much. Labour managed to kick them out with a rather bland and uncharismatic leader. And remarkably the sky hasn't yet fallen in, though it's probably too early to tell.

Half the party are still hoping Jose Mourinho will return to lead them back to glory I think.

In case you aren't been looking at politics on the continent, the old adage of winning from the centre seems to be on the retreat. If anything, the issue was that the Tories weren't Conservative enough, rather than not enough like some slightly less sad version of the Lib Dems.

There's no disappointment at getting rid of liars and incompetents for starters, and Labour trying firstly to mend as much of the stuff that the Tories broke (the jury's still out on whether it was by design or incompetence) such as the NHS, the courts, UK-EU relations, immigration, schools, etc. as they can.

I'm aware you've said unblocking housebuilding won't make much of a difference, or gradually making trading with the EU less problematic, but I assume that if there were an easy wand to wave, the Tories would have done it, unless they were even worse than Cakestoppers made out. The one magic wand that the Tories couldn't wave was to make people believe the Government had a grip on, well, anything. Businesses need predictability and stability from government, plus a belief that the government is actually acting in the country's interest, not the party's, nor chasing unicorns. That stability in itself should help things along.

I suspect that your blaming Labour for everything isn't going to worry Starmer, Reeves or Rayner too much for a while. If it all goes pear-shaped, I'm sure CS will be on it, but until Tories do some reflection on how they screwed up, and how they are going to make themselves electable again, few people are going to be listening to them. The likes of Badenoch and Atkins posturing in the Commons is only going to prolong their irrelevance.

I genuinely think you're moving further right towards Reform. People are trying to help you here (and the Tories, as we need a decent opposition), but you appear to think that the answer is to ignore the electorate and friendly advice and go even more extreme. I genuinely don't think you know what you want from government, other than one which promises to cut taxes and isolates itself from its nearest market. You might have noticed that's been tried just recently, and was shit. Maybe you're now in the Farageiste or Trussist 'It wasn't done properly' camp. I do remember your glee at Truss's offer to give you a tax cut so you could turn your heating up.

It’s good to see the spirit of this guy lives on.

If you mean completely giving up on support for businesses, abandoning home ownership as an aspiration and spending like a drunk at the bookies, then yes, you might have a point.

I think you have a very unhealthy obsession Brian.

It really is irrelevant what the Tories do in the coming months, but you seem utterly obsessed with anything to do with them.

Get out and enjoy your bike and forget about them for a while intil they have worked out what direction they will go in the new world.

The terms are interchangeable for righties who think the answer is to go further right.

You're probably right, though it is quite fun watching them self-immolate. But maybe I can be forgiven my schadenfreude given what they've inflicted on the UK. I suspect I'm not alone.

Off to France for six weeks at the end of the month, so riding my bike is exactly what I'll be doing.