2024 UK politics - now with Labour in charge
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Oh well
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Yeah, was a bit weird. He has a mandate across all four nations, but he didn't get a mandate from all four.
Impressive to get a majority of seats in all three, nonetheless.
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I'm going to put my prediction on record that Kemi Badenoch will be elected Tory leader, but will not make it as far as the next general election.
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I can see the MPs voting for her, but not sure if it goes to the activist vote tho’. That’s how they ended up with Truss. 😱
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The fact Bandeoch could even possibly be viewed as the more sensible choice shows the hole they've dug themselves into.
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What’s the odds on Sunak seeing out the full term?
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650 million to 1.
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Interesting comment on the FT podcast.
“Labour won’t have to do any major tax raises as the previous Tory government did all the heavy lifting for them by freezing the tax bands”
sorry @Stevo_666 you backed the wrong horse
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Definition of tax rises inudes unfunded tax cuts that were never going to happen, didn't you know?
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Same or worse 💩 just a different regime.
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I wish we could agree on one British & Irish Politics thread.
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It certainly feels over the first weekend like we have a serious Government back in charge, the contrast is stark. Starmer already meeting devolved govts, Lammy starting to rebuild some trust with Europe, Streeting planning talks with Junior Doctors, a Cabinet full of people appointed on merit and expertise.
It just hits home that nothing the Tories did in the last few years was at all serious, in fact much of it now feels like they were essentially trolling institutions and the electorate.
I have said this before, but who the hell has been in charge (the real decision maker I mean) the last few years and what were they playing at? They have gone down the path of making up pointless and undeliverable policy to appeal to a far right contingent that was never going to vote for them anyway. I don't really care as I am quite clearly not a Tory voter, but I am just baffled as to the complete nonsensical nature of the last Tory govt.
I am absolutely convinced that the real Tory base is centre right, as evidenced by the LD success in the GE. I just can't quite fathom how nobody in the Tory party seems to understand this.
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It's the honeymoon period.
That said, I read they are likely to cancel the legal challenge to the ICC arrest warrants. That seems like a sensible move.
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I know it's boring and tiresome to blame everything on Brexit, but I think is where a large part of the issue with the previous lot stems from.
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A bigger problem than the actual policy of Brexit was that it was then a vehicle to fill a whole government full of incompetent lazy lying morons. That's what we are really paying for.
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I think this is a fallacy. If you look around the world, many countries have the same struggles.
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I'm in mixed opinion about this. It will be interesting how Labour MP's react when it's on thier backdoor and constituents.
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More supply, less demanding, softening house prices long term? Inflation with regards building and materials?
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Protests are going to happen. I get both sides of it. Young families should have opportunities in their local area, by the same token who wants sprawling generic estates?
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I think Brexit was the direct cause for the Tory party messing up so badly. That doesn't mean that without Brexit something else wouldn't have caused whoever was in power to have issues.
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I think that was covid, but discontent was already widespread and unrelated to covid. I watched an interview with a professor about Gen Z in the US - it could easily have been the UK she was talking about it as grievances were the same.
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I appreciate I'm ripping any sort of nuance out of the argument, but it feels like there's only one winner in the "I need somewhere to raise my family" v "I like looking at farmland from my back window" debate.
I guess to add in some balance, I feel a lot of the new builds around me are deeply unappealing - having been built in villages or on very much the outskirts of towns. For me they combine the least attractive parts of town and village living - the lack of decent amenities which comes from living in a village, with the lack of space that comes from living in a busy town.
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