2024 Election thread

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  • monkimark
    monkimark Posts: 1,926

    Seems to be pretty close between the main 3 in my area, getvoting is slightly on the side of labour, tacticalvote favours lib demand (I think based on previous election results).

  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,783

    Luckily I dont have to tactically vote, but I would in principle.

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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,805
    edited June 17

    I will, Richmond Park constituency is either Conservative or Lib Dem, so I will vote to make sure. I say I will, my proxy will. But they are doing the same thing, so I know my vote is in the right hands.

  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,601

    Would rather vote lib dem, but they have no chance here, and there is a good chance it'll be close-ish between Labour and Conservative here.

  • laurentian
    laurentian Posts: 2,548

    I will try but can't see anythng other than a Consrvative hold here

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,100

    As there's only two possible winners here, I haven't really thought about who I'd vote for in a pr world.

  • Webboo2
    Webboo2 Posts: 982

    I would have done but that link Brian posted says I don’t need to bother. However it might be a Tory scam🤣🤣🤣

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,512
    edited June 17

    93% chance of a LibDem win in my constituency, so not sure tactics are needed unless you are a Labour voter. A bit of a shame that the current Conservative MP will almost certainly be out after one term as he's a pretty diligent constituency MP and is the sort of person the party needs if they are ever to dig themselves out of the current hole.

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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,100

    That site says I should vote with my heart because the Lib Dems are predicted to get 64% of the vote.

    Looking at some of the forecasts, if it's vaguely right and people do vote tactically, it could be close to a wipeout in London. Crazy days.

  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,334


    last time around there were quite a few tory seats with slim majorities after they were rightly punished for brexit - london was heavily remain - wouldn't surprise me if a lot of those end up labour this time

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,291

    I’m not voting tactically, I am voting out of principle. I suspect most will be doing similar resulting in a swing vote and can only hope my suspicions are correct. Time will tell.

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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,322
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,461

    I always thought my constituency was solidly Labour giving me freedom to vote how I pleased but it was actually a lot closer than I'd realised in 2019. I've been moved into the next constutuency now which had a stronger Labour majority last time but not massive (about 2,000) and has always been held by Labour. I'll probably vote Labour for the first time ever just to make sure but might still go Lib Dem instead. I don't think we've had any leaflets from any of the Parties and definitely no-one to the door (which is a shame as I'm sure my German dog would love to meet the Reform candidate to discuss Brexit and immigration!) so maybe the Parties have decided it is a foregone conclusion.

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,430

    It's interesting how Reform are flat lining until the Truss debacle, then there's a flicker of life before they start gradually improving from the Autumn of 23

    I'd guess making immigration the central issue then failing on it has been disastrous for Sunak


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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Farage may be popular amongst reform voters but he is really disliked by a majority of people

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Tories are shameless when they buddy up with big business:


    if only they cared this much about university education costs

  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,692

    Saw this and thought of Cake Stop...


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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,512

    Bless them for thinking they can 'panic' admissions teams.

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,279

    "Two Liz Trusses". I suppose giving us a new unit of measurement is something the Tories have done.


  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,334


    after the epic lies of brexit enabled farage to select the gullible, he's doing it again with reform

    i.e. if you want to make money, pile in, he's identified the suckers, they're ripe for exploitation - mega hats (make england great again) should do well

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661

    Going through a phase of thinking the polls are so extreme we’re in uncharted territory so the margin of error is quite big

  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,291

    "mega hats (make england great again)" I'm sure I trademarked that earlier. 😉🤣

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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,279

    Yep. See my comments about my constituency. The Stevos of this world will be hoping that there are enough morons who will vote for a party who can't tell the truth and have proved themselves to be utterly incompetent, because, well...

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,135
    edited June 17

    I am wondering if this time around the shy Tories are actually the ones claiming they'll vote Reform.

  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited June 17

    Thing is we’re at a weird tipping point where a) there’s not much data for reform and b) there’s loads of weird tactical voting going on.

    If you stick the small changes between polls into, say ,the FT seat calculator model that spits out huge Tory seat changes - from as little as 40 seats to 180. Massive range.

  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,601

    I suspect there are a chunk of seats that the splits are roughly 20% reform, 20% conservative and 35% labour.

    So will the Reform vote stand up (or will the Conservative vote further decrease).

  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,135

    I don't think the Reform vote will match polling. Even if it's 10% it's still terrible for the Tories though.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,322

    We get Labour governments in the same way.

    I'm just wondering how long afterwards the electoral equivalent of buyers' remorse will set in.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 3,601

    As I understand the shy Tory phenomenon is due to being embarrassed about voting for a right wing party...so I'm not sure the typical shy Tory would tell someone they were voting reform?

    I think reform will beat UKIPs 2015 vote share.

  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,322

    I think that there are quite a few shy lefties as well. Understandably so.

    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]