2024 Election thread

So far the only things I've seen are a (reform) candidate so uncharismatic I had to check to see if it was a joke, and an extremely half hearted sing along from Farage to an Eminem song.

Given the current level of support for Labour, there are going to be a lot of thickos voting for them. Some things in life don't change 🙂

Because the Tories did a good job of persuading them it was a good idea? Or maybe they're not as thick as you think? Academic success does not always translate to success in life, which could explain some of the educated leftie vote.

So how did it work in the last few elections?

Are you? No need to be angry, it's only politics.

Just had a look at the Reform manifesto that's not called a manifesto.

Let's say it is ambitious.

🤣🤣🤣 eh, 🤔

I think that’s exactly why they are where they are in the polls to be fair.

I think I too would do that, if that was the most likely way to keep Farage away from parliament... but interesting to hear Alastair Campbell (of all people) say that.

Looks like this refers to January and so the relevant year was last year, before this became a real prospect. So are you telling us this is a case of drawing conclusions too early?

And back then the prospect of a Labour govt was not seen as the threat it is now. You should see what the numbers are like when the policy has been put in place and then see what damage it has done.

I'd have said it's been pretty clear since partygate that the conservatives had run out of road.

Reading between the lines, I don't think Stewart Lee will be voting Tory. He appears to think they don't always tell the truth.

Yes. It’s the lying we can’t stand. Some of Rishi Sunak’s faults are excusable. It is understandable that he would not consider the sacrifice of the soldiers of D-day especially significant when his own parents had so nobly sacrificed his family’s Sky TV subscription to pay his Winchester College school fees. But it was on Tuesday of the week before last that, unforgivably, lying Sunak vomited out his instantly discredited lie about Labour’s £2,000 tax plans, live in an ITV debate against the lightning-reflexed Keir Starmer. Luckily Starmer shut Sunak’s false claims down with all the speed of an arthritic slug lurching towards a distant cabbage (though to compare lying Sunak to a vegetable at this stage in the Conservatives’ election campaign is perhaps to exaggerate his gifts as a communicator and electoral asset and is, moreover, unfair to cabbages).

Instead of apologising for their lie, perhaps learning from Boris Johnson’s Brexit bus bullshit, slippery single market membership assurances, and persuasive Partygate prevarications, the lying Conservatives now take every media opportunity to further propagate their lies. Lying Penny Mordaunt, less impressive when shorn of her Battlestar Galactica coronation cloak and Melnibonéan soul-stealing sword, repeatedly regurgitated the same disproven tax claim on TV on Friday of last week, like an enormous blue cormorant, while ignoring the unfailingly polite, and therefore utterly pointless, attempts by the BBC’s Mishal Husain to correct her, a supply teacher powerless before a spoilt lying child.

Why do the Conservatives just lie? Is clinging to that big tax lie the best advice their election strategist Isaac Levido, the New Statesman’s 15th most powerful British rightwinger and Beard Twat Quarterly’s beard twat of the year 2019, can give them? For half of his fee, I would gladly have turned up in a campaign office with a black marker pen and written the phrase “If you throw enough shit at a wall some if might stick” on a whiteboard. Because, at the moment, that’s as far as Conservative election strategy goes."

I will. #gtto is the first principle at this election, everything else can follow later. I'd look at the Labour & LD positions much more carefully if it were a normal election and there wasn't an overriding objective that trumped all else.