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We have a farmer near here who has put, "shaeep can miscarriage too" signs everywhere.kingstongraham said:I get offended by those signs that say "Even your dog can scare or kill livestock ".
Even? Of course he could.
Along with, "danger, lambs" signs.
I bet he's a barrel of laughs.0 -
I've recently learned that Rick is the young Victor Meldrew.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Ngl I can’t stand life in the countryside.
It’s for cycling through and hoping you don’t puncture while you’re there.
Cities ftw
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I sing with someone who runs the family farm. They lose several pregnant ewes each year not necessarily because they get mauled but because of loose dogs distressing them. All those dogs that are left to run off the lead and jump all over people or other dogs that are "just being friendly" could result in dead livestock even if they never open their jaws.TheBigBean said:
Still a hassle and I suspect lifestock deaths by dogs far exceed the number of dogs shot.orraloon said:
Nah they don't. Shoot the dog. No worries.TheBigBean said:Believing your dog doesn't like tasty meat on the bone is not really an acceptable excuse. These are things many farmers have to put up with.
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rick_chasey said:
Ngl I can’t stand life in the countryside.
It’s for cycling through and hoping you don’t puncture while you’re there.
Cities ftw
Better than cycling through greenhouses and polytunnels? Because that's one reason Dutch agriculture is so efficient.
Me, I hate cities.3 -
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/12/04/how-regions-near-stalins-gulag-benefit-today-from-his-victims
This is really interesting.
Cities that came out of gulags which had higher proportions of political prisoners in Stalinist Russia have significantly better economic development even today.0 -
It’s the future.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:Ngl I can’t stand life in the countryside.
It’s for cycling through and hoping you don’t puncture while you’re there.
Cities ftw
Better than cycling through greenhouses and polytunnels? Because that's one reason Dutch agriculture is so efficient.
Me, I hate cities.0 -
Despite being strictly liable it seems that most dog owners don't tend to offer to pay for the sheep that their dogs have killed, so I imagine there is no hope for death by distress cases.Pross said:
I sing with someone who runs the family farm. They lose several pregnant ewes each year not necessarily because they get mauled but because of loose dogs distressing them. All those dogs that are left to run off the lead and jump all over people or other dogs that are "just being friendly" could result in dead livestock even if they never open their jaws.TheBigBean said:
Still a hassle and I suspect lifestock deaths by dogs far exceed the number of dogs shot.orraloon said:
Nah they don't. Shoot the dog. No worries.TheBigBean said:Believing your dog doesn't like tasty meat on the bone is not really an acceptable excuse. These are things many farmers have to put up with.
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You don't need to like the countryside, but hating the occupants of it seems a bit much.rick_chasey said:Ngl I can’t stand life in the countryside.
It’s for cycling through and hoping you don’t puncture while you’re there.
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rick_chasey said:
It’s the future.briantrumpet said:rick_chasey said:Ngl I can’t stand life in the countryside.
It’s for cycling through and hoping you don’t puncture while you’re there.
Cities ftw
Better than cycling through greenhouses and polytunnels? Because that's one reason Dutch agriculture is so efficient.
Me, I hate cities.
Having pretty places that you can cycle through that also produce food (which funds keeping them pretty and accessible) doesn't seem like such a terrible idea. Polytunnels would get boring after a while.1 -
Yeah but it is mainly boomers that live in the countryside.TheBigBean said:
You don't need to like the countryside, but hating the occupants of it seems a bit much.rick_chasey said:Ngl I can’t stand life in the countryside.
It’s for cycling through and hoping you don’t puncture while you’re there.
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Surely you can understand his resentment?First.Aspect said:
We have a farmer near here who has put, "shaeep can miscarriage too" signs everywhere.kingstongraham said:I get offended by those signs that say "Even your dog can scare or kill livestock ".
Even? Of course he could.
Along with, "danger, lambs" signs.
I bet he's a barrel of laughs.
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Not really. It is a route almost entirely used by walkers, horse riders and cyclists. The next road to the south is about 10 miles I think. In the grand scheme of things I don't see an issue and, if he wanted he could put fences up along the road. Since you don't routinely see home made signs every 50 yards elsewhere, it seems to me that he is a bit of a nutter.pinno said:
Surely you can understand his resentment?First.Aspect said:
We have a farmer near here who has put, "shaeep can miscarriage too" signs everywhere.kingstongraham said:I get offended by those signs that say "Even your dog can scare or kill livestock ".
Even? Of course he could.
Along with, "danger, lambs" signs.
I bet he's a barrel of laughs.0 -
All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.0 -
AI robotica won't require food, just sayin.
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You do realise the most likely alternative will be housing and not rewilding?masjer said:All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.
Somewhat ironic given people were replaced by sheep.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
Given where sheep farming typically takes place, I think that's unlikely.pblakeney said:
You do realise the most likely alternative will be housing and not rewilding?masjer said:All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.
Somewhat ironic given people were replaced by sheep.1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
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Only 5-6% of the entire UK has been built on. If some of the sheep fields were used for housing, it would be a tiny percentage of that land. i.e still millions of hectares left for rewilding. A majority of sheep farming is in highland areas- perfect for rewilding, cr@p for housing.pblakeney said:
You do realise the most likely alternative will be housing and not rewilding?masjer said:All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.
Somewhat ironic given people were replaced by sheep.0 -
Americans don't really eat lamb.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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Much more expensive as it doesn't suit their factory farming methodstailwindhome said:Americans don't really eat lamb.
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It's not the world wide animal that chicken is. Chicken and Coke are available pretty much the world over.tailwindhome said:Americans don't really eat lamb.
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I never really like the thought of food grown by hydroponics, but realise a lot of it grown in controlled environment, green houses, are. I remember seeing this being done as a kid at EPCOT twenty odd years ago.0
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Try Googling Highland clearances.masjer said:
Only 5-6% of the entire UK has been built on. If some of the sheep fields were used for housing, it would be a tiny percentage of that land. i.e still millions of hectares left for rewilding. A majority of sheep farming is in highland areas- perfect for rewilding, cr@p for housing.pblakeney said:
You do realise the most likely alternative will be housing and not rewilding?masjer said:All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.
Somewhat ironic given people were replaced by sheep.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Pretty sure that's not what is stopping Cala from building houses in upland grazing areas now. More like a lack of roads, electricity, treated water, that sort of thing.pblakeney said:
Try Googling Highland clearances.masjer said:
Only 5-6% of the entire UK has been built on. If some of the sheep fields were used for housing, it would be a tiny percentage of that land. i.e still millions of hectares left for rewilding. A majority of sheep farming is in highland areas- perfect for rewilding, cr@p for housing.pblakeney said:
You do realise the most likely alternative will be housing and not rewilding?masjer said:All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.
Somewhat ironic given people were replaced by sheep.0 -
I think you are confusing the term highland areas (uplands) as the Scottish Highlands. Anyway, parts of the Scottish Highlands are being rewilded. I don't think anyone will move back there to return to crofting.pblakeney said:
Try Googling Highland clearances.masjer said:
Only 5-6% of the entire UK has been built on. If some of the sheep fields were used for housing, it would be a tiny percentage of that land. i.e still millions of hectares left for rewilding. A majority of sheep farming is in highland areas- perfect for rewilding, cr@p for housing.pblakeney said:
You do realise the most likely alternative will be housing and not rewilding?masjer said:All sheep farming should stop, freeing up the complete waste of land for something better--rewilding. Britain is in the lowest 10% in the world for biodiversity, so (as we're in a climate emergency) it's maybe time we did something radical.
Don't believe Countryfile, sheep are a biodiversity / climate disaster.
Somewhat ironic given people were replaced by sheep.0 -
Rewilding and replacing habitat is one thing. Reducing pesticide/nitrate use is another.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
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I think that is because their mint sauce tastes like toothpastetailwindhome said:Americans don't really eat lamb.
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I bet it comes in a tube too.0
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Mmm, I got a taste for the stuff.0
