Hubs: Hope Pro2 or Shimano XTR?

Unknown · June 2007

Lol, its just that a lot of untrue things are said about Shimano hubs. Many peoples experiences are wwith the lowlier ones (like yourself - the ones on your Saracen were Altus hubs!) and not the top end stuff. Deore and below DO need frequent servicing. LX and XT are better, XTR superb.

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koldphuzionwmb · June 2007

Hmmm, good debate, but from my exploits.....

Hope.
I have had both Shimano hubs and Hope, which i'm riding now.
My old Shimano XT hubs died after a couple of years, constantly servicing them and cleaning them.
I now ride Hope XC, so the freehub is a little noisy, it warns dog walker that you're about to run over their little sh*tzoo's, or whatever they're called... (sorry, tangent moment..!), no problem at all with them.

When it comes down to it its your choice, but I recommend HOPE.

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Mad Splasherwmb · June 2007

I have just ordered a new set of wheels and I ordered ProIIs. I did this because they're light, british and a bit pimpy. I already have a set on the hardtail and they haven't needed touching in a year BUT I serviced my XT 6 bolts a few weeks ago after 2 years and it was a waste of time - grease, balls and races were like new.

I'll knock 1 lb off my wheelset by changing, and aleady owning a set of Hope's, I wanted to keep the consistency of interchagebility and maintenance. However, if that were not the case, I would have been sorely tempted by XTRs.

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Unknown · June 2007

What rims and spokes Splasher?

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streako · June 2007

I have never had problems with LX or XT hubs, I tend to find the rest of the wheel knackers first, either rims or spokes, in which case I would order a new set of wheels.

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Unknown · June 2007

That has been the same for me streako too. I have 3 lx hubs in the shed!

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streako · June 2007

Yeah, my old LX hubs outlasted my back wheel which kept snapping spokes and the rim was full of dents and scratched to feck.
Its not really worth getting them built back up again when you can order good wheels complete.

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Unknown · June 2007

Merlin so cheap, it wokrd out less than me to buy the parts seperate and build them! God knows how they do it.

BTW, I used to have a Hope thru axle 5 bolt hub on my Mt Vison Pro...

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Mad Splasherwmb · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

What rims and spokes Splasher?

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DT Comps and.....wait for it.....the dark side beckons.....XM819s, with Michelin UST tyres and Stan's gloop.

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Unknown · June 2007

Nice! I am getting on rather well with my UST on my Crossmax

Crossmax - flies in the face of everything I said above hehe

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Mad Splasherwmb · June 2007

Sonic, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Most people when they ask a "which" question already have an answer in mind and they're looking for re-assurance. No offense anyone, we all do it, me as much as anyone. But that's why sound advice isn't always as appreciated as you'd think.

Anyway, my XT/719s have got years left in them, so they're replacing the 475s/117s on the Kona as my station/family/heavy touring/cycling into town bike. So I'll have three sets of MTB wheels:

ProIIs/CX-Ray/717
ProIIs/Comps/819
XT 6 bolt/Comp/719

Want to bet which will live longest? [;)]

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Unknown · June 2007

You're right, I had pretty much already decided which ones I was getting (mostly due to price) but I was interested to see everyone's opinions.

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Unknown · June 2007

Lol, not the top set ;-)

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futon river crossing · June 2007

Hope Pro II are as common as muck anyway [;)] - just kidding [:D]

I love my new wheels: DT240s + 717 + laced with Sapim CX-Ray spokes - they feel real smooth, light too. I got them from Action Sports for a good price.

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Unknown · June 2007

If I'd have said Hope, she'd have bought bloody XTR ;-)

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Unknown · June 2007

Nope, I had my mind set on Hope right from the start, because everyone I spoke to (except you unfortunately) said to get Hope.

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Mad Splasherwmb · June 2007

It's a terrible thing, free will!

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Unknown · June 2007

110 is a good deal anyway! Personally wouldnt pay any more lol

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corrie · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

If I'd have said Hope, she'd have bought bloody XTR ;-)
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I don't think you have that much importance over Caz's decisions.

Any new wheels and you'll be well impressed over your current ones. Just remember to change the tyres as well[;)]

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Unknown · June 2007

I think I was joking Corrie. And nowt wrong with them tyres! Apart from I suggested, so I guess they will go too... ;-)

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RobS · June 2007

im just about to contact wheelpro abnd have a set of DT Swiss 5.1D's on Hope ProII's and Maxxis High roller tyres made up - yippee!

God i hate the fact you can choose hub colour though, i not got a clue what to choose!

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

I suggested, so I guess they will go too... ;-)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Lol, that's not why I'm changing them. I'm changing them because they're nowhere near as good as the Verticals were, they skid out in the slightest bit of wet and don't seem as grippy as the verticals. Gonna give some Kendas a go and see what all the fuss is about.
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> 110 is a good deal anyway! Personally wouldnt pay any more lol<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
That's cos you're tighter than a constipated ducks ar$e [:p]

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Unknown · June 2007

Aye, thats why I have money ;-)

Heard good things about the Kendas, though never tried them. All the manufacturers seem to have a tyre that people like, it is one area where I don't argue. But Conti make the best hehe.

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paulosoxo · June 2007

High Rollers! I like the the Mavic hubs on my road bike cos they sound nice, purrrrr, but not as nice as the campag on my dad's roadie.

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Unknown · June 2007

Mine make a nice purr too. Look bloody flimsy though, taking a risk, but I have put light weight over durabilty here.

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paulosoxo · June 2007

I still don't get the whole light weight thing, unless you're

a) racing
b) steve land who's tyres seem to float 3mm above ground.

Why would you take a risk of something packing in in the middle of nowhere to save a few grammes?

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Unknown · June 2007

Yep! I know its a risk, but Crossmax have very good longevity records. I'm pretty light on components, though did trash my last XC wheels... 11.5st. I ahve the Ruckus for gnarlier stuff.

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Unknown · June 2007

I'd always put durability before weight. If the bike's a bit heavier so what, means I get fitter trudging it up hills and stuff. I'd far rather have a bike that was heavier but withstood a bit of throwing about than one which was a light as possible but a bit more prone to damage.

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by supersonic

Shimano XTR are lighter<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I checked the weights in the trade catalogues today. The XTR is 40g lighter up front and a whopping 15g lighter at the back. Negligible really.

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Unknown · June 2007

Yet people are willing to spend 100 quid more for the 50g saving Pro2 has over XT...

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