Today's discussion about the news
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In my local area a we used to have three small police stations within a couple of miles of each other. Now there are none it's all regional policing by car. The people in the area don't know who the Police are by name. There's a kid who I've seen whizzing around on a Surron, an EV bike which can do 45mph, tuned more like 70. No helmet, no reg, no tax, no insurance. This wouldn't have happened in the passed. He would have been spoken to and his parents would have been spoken to. They used to have local policing for a reason.
The only Police we still don't see now and again are the ones sitting in a van with a speed gun catching someone doing 35 in a 30 zone. The Police should be a part of the community akin to a GP surgery.
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If you ever watch any of those fly on the wall documentaries like Traffic Cops they chase criminals all over the place, catch them bang to rights and then when they do the wrap up at the end most of them have no further action taken or a very minimal fine. That might explain why the police are reluctant to use their limited resources going after that sort of low level crime. It must be a bit soul destroying knowing who the culprits are, arresting them and then having the CPS decide not to take further action.
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This. From experiences within the family network, a sig chunk of police time is taken up by what I would deem social worker territory, if such a cadre still exists.
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A lot like GPs and teachers in that regard
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The amount of phone thefts mean they it’s not really trivial and the likelihood is that it’s a small number of people doing a lot of crime.
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I'm assuming that this is a London-centric phenomenon. The only person I know who has had his phone snatched was in London at the time...
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It's futile debating this as it ain't going to be fixed. The simple answer is to not use a fancy smart phone outside in certain public places and don't wear some tarty timepiece either (a fookin watch).
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Or avoid London.
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I understand the police not wanting to track one iphone, but I'd be surprised if there weren't multiple phones in the same place.
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But much like the people carrying drugs that get a slapped wrist in the documentaries I was on about they’re just the foot soldiers. The people they want to get (and where the limited resources get targeted) are the ring leaders. Phone thefts are apparently more to do with harvesting the data on them than the phone itself.
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Slightly off on a tangent but how accurate is the find my phone thing? If it was in a block of flats, could you locate it to a specific flat? To track a phone over that period of time suggests it still works after the battery dies too?
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Police stations reduce crime. If you shut them to save money, crime goes up. Not exactly startling, but there's data to back it up.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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Yep, blame the complict Libs and their damn austerity.
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Will "RoboCop" still be fiction!?
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I mentioned that above. I don’t think Find My showing a phone being in your house for a short period would pass the level of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’. Of course if there were a load of reported stolen phones at the same location it could be the basis to raid the place and find stronger evidence but I doubt they’re there very long before they get moved on.
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Erm, ok, if it makes you feel better. It was actually a decision by the Mayor of London.
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Pinnacle Monzonite
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I don't live in London. Don't eat the chips, I've just pissed on them.
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No, the thieves re-register them and sell them on. Apple's Find My Phone uses other Apple devices in the vicinity to determine location, but it doesn't work when the device is switched off, so the location is just the last place it was detected. I suspect part of the reason for not following up is that by the time a property is searched the phones will be on their way to China. If your device is stolen you should use the Find My Phone app (Android have similar) to erase all data. It's a shame you can't brick the phone to make it scrap value only.
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A British endurance swimmer says she is in "complete shock" as she is believed to have broken a world record for being the fastest female to swim across Lake Geneva.
It took Sam Farrow 22 hours and 48 minutes to continuously swim the length of the lake, which is situated on the north side of the Alps between France and Switzerland.
The 31-year-old covered a distance of 45.2 miles (72.8 km).
That's some going.
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It just seemed odd that the story said the phone was tracked around the uk for a few days and then on to China. My phone battery would be dead by the next morning, were the theives keeping it charged?
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IPhones are effectively bricked when reported stolen
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The iPhone one also works when the phone is off and I think uses blue tooth over close range, so it would be easy to work out exactly where it is.
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may wel be
lot's of tourists, students, commuters
i've seen at least three phone snatch-thefts in the last year, most recent was a few weeks ago around 0630, lady i assumed on her way to work, maybe at the nearby hospital, thief rode e-bike along the pavement behind her, grabbed it, accelerated away fast
partial solution: carte balance to shoot anyone on an e-bike who's wearing a balaclava, been a while since i shot anyone, but i'd certainly be up for it
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Don't live in Lahndahn. Sorted.
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Well, if people must use their phones in public in London in the midst of this crime spree, perhaps they need to tether the phone physically to something... like this model...
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Nah. Haven’t you got the memo, Lahndahn is the solution, not the problem. Summit like that.
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The focus on it is also part of the productivity crisis.
You can't solve a solution with the same creating that you are thinking about. Or something like that.
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ROI. You won’t get a return from elsewhere if you don’t invest.
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I don't understand the whole shoulder chip about London. Living there comes with pros and cons. One of the cons is more crime.
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