2024 Election thread
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A guy at work came in last week missing half an ear. He got mugged for his phone, refused to hand it over and got jumped by 4 other guys who kicked his head in on the floor.
Police wouldn’t even see him face to face.
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Was hoping you might have something more substantive. More people = more taxpayers, so it's obviously a little more complicated. Those not staying permanently will pay a surcharge on top of taxes. Immigrants tend to be younger than the native population, and will therefore make less use of healthcare. So on balance I would guess that more immigration actually makes it easier to fund the NHS.
There's an argument that recent migration trends have seen more dependents moving to the UK. You'd have to ask the government why they have distributed visas in that way, but unless they are setting here, they will still be paying for any treatment.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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At some point we are going to have to seriously consider a cull of the boomers. They make bad voting decisions and are expensive.
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Do you have a link to the forecast by seat?
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Everyday there's something
I'm going to miss them
“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
Why would the snp launch their manifesto today? Who's watching the news?
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If it wasn't for the English, they'd have an extra player on the pitch.
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Thanks. I had lunch with a Tory candidate a few months ago. I didn't know at the time, but afterwards discovered he had been selected for a safe seat. A pretty life changing moment except it's not safe any more!
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Yougov has Richard Holden losing his seat which would be very funny, even if it is to reform.
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I suppose one has to hand it to Farage, he's good at populism, and Tories have even failed at their Farage tribute act.
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Assuming they are net contributors. Including their dependents of course.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
So the more people we treat, the more the cost goes down?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
Its a pretty fundamental point. Do you disagree that treating more people will cost more?
Also the recent problems of the NHS does seem to councide with significant levels of net immigration and population increase. Are you sure that they aren't linked?
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]0 -
We've also had a horrible rainy year. I'm gonna follow your lead and blame immigrants for that too.
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Fairly confident they are not linked, in fact having had to engage with NHS services a lot recently it's pretty obvious who's using the bulk of resources. I'm sitting in waiting rooms full of people who are positively ancient and clearly haven't just arrived here from anywhere else.
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According to that poll there are no safe tory seats.
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Are you sure that the NHS in being in crisis and the Tories being in power aren't linked?
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They really are 'working" that chart! 🤣🤣🤣
"Why do you consider the Telegraph to be unreliable?" See the above.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Not sure it is, for the reasons already listed. I'm going to need more than 'it happened around the same time' to be convinced.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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From the King's Fund.
NHS funding has increased in real terms every year. The rate at which it has increased has varied.
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
Pinnacle Monzonite
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The Telegraph really have got their greatest minds working on election analysis.
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Remind me which Party has been in power whilst this rise in immigration has occurred?
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By the sound of it, maybe they haven't bothered to do their homework properly, and were hoping no-one would notice.
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Obviously not, you clearly know it is more complex than that and some people have pointed out the detail but keep on pretending not to understand if it makes you happy.
The local lib dem candidate was handing out leaflets at my train station this morning, there were two volunteers trying to hand out leaflets for the Conservative candidate as well but nobody was taking them.
In theory it is a safe Tory seat (I think it has been blue since the constituency was created in the 1800s) but I'm hoping that this is an indication that the Tinpot Truss Tory candidate is going to lose.
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I do sometimes wonder with these papers. Do you think they look at the polls and think "yikes, we've been backing something that is very unpopular", not out of politican concern, but with concern they're just writing stuff people don't want to read and they're missing out on a lot of readership?
I have always felt papers try to reflect the mood rather than dictate it, and I think this election is a good example of how they thought they were but they really are not.
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