TDF 2023: Stage 14:- Annemasse to Morzine, 152km ***Spoilers***
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It's funny to see teams and riders being criticised for doing the exact opposite of what we previously criticised teams for.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1
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So who do we blame for the moto impeded sprint?
Me, I blame the organisation for not barriering off that last section and the fans for encroaching.
Moto driver can't just accelerate into fans“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
tailwindhome said:
So who do we blame for the moto impeded sprint?
Me, I blame the organisation for not barriering off that last section and the fans for encroaching.
Moto driver can't just accelerate into fans
Primarily the photographer moto. It shouldn't be riding two abreast with the TV camera when the crowds are like that.Twitter: @RichN952 -
He shouldn't have been that close in the first place.tailwindhome said:So who do we blame for the moto impeded sprint?
Me, I blame the organisation for not barriering off that last section and the fans for encroaching.
Moto driver can't just accelerate into fans"Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
As Thomas de Gendt has pointed out on Twitter - if you’re going to award bonus seconds at the KOM, then there’s going to be a sprint and therefore you need to barrier off the 1km approach.
The cameramen on the bikes knew there was going to be a race-defining shot when those 2 wound it up for the sprint, and ended up ruining it by trying to capture it0 -
Said it before, I'd mandate a minimum focal length for the lenses used in motion.gsk82 said:
He shouldn't have been that close in the first place.tailwindhome said:So who do we blame for the moto impeded sprint?
Me, I blame the organisation for not barriering off that last section and the fans for encroaching.
Moto driver can't just accelerate into fans
That would make camera operators keep their distance for everyone's benefit.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Am I the only one that thinks that where and when Pog tends to attack is as much about where the motos are as anything else? He's very good at grabbing a bit of a draft from them, but it backfired here.
I'm not complaining about that as a tactic, it's just canny riding, though motos shouldn't be close enough to give the sort of assistance he's been gettingWarning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Except at Cauterets, the Puy de Dome and the Grand Colombier.RichN95. said:
His attack that got blocked was badly timed as well. I think Vingegaard would have still got the bonus pointsmididoctors said:Pog attacked way to early with that big attack ....if he did that 2km to the top he would have held it
When Pogacar ‘drops’ Vingegaard it seems to be on Vingegaard’s terms. Sort of ‘ you have your fun, I’m not going into the red, I’ll catch you later’0 -
Far from me to disagree with the great TdG but....did they?poweredbyidris said:As Thomas de Gendt has pointed out on Twitter - if you’re going to award bonus seconds at the KOM, then there’s going to be a sprint and therefore you need to barrier off the 1km approach.
The cameramen on the bikes knew there was going to be a race-defining shot when those 2 wound it up for the sprint, and ended up ruining it by trying to capture it
Would any of us have honestly predicted that a 3s time gap could be "race defining" when ordering barriers back in January?We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Yeah - Poor organisation!! And we all know nothing will change......they've learned nothing from Ventoux 2016. So the race jury threw the moto riders under the bus.....tailwindhome said:So who do we blame for the moto impeded sprint?
Me, I blame the organisation for not barriering off that last section and the fans for encroaching.
Moto driver can't just accelerate into fans
The ASO are just cheapskates....Why not spend some of their money to put barriers 1km from the top, and put some police there?All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
Wonder how that stage would have played out had Yates not been there to set up Pogacar's attack?
Would Vingegaard have been the one to launch - after all they'd ridden all day - or would being burnt leading from the front already this race have meant they both played cat and mouse to the top ?[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Was there even a bit of magic rope on that section?“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0
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What's the point of the bonuses if they didn't think they could make a difference?ddraver said:
Far from me to disagree with the great TdG but....did they?poweredbyidris said:As Thomas de Gendt has pointed out on Twitter - if you’re going to award bonus seconds at the KOM, then there’s going to be a sprint and therefore you need to barrier off the 1km approach.
The cameramen on the bikes knew there was going to be a race-defining shot when those 2 wound it up for the sprint, and ended up ruining it by trying to capture it
Would any of us have honestly predicted that a 3s time gap could be "race defining" when ordering barriers back in January?0 -
Nah I think the crowds are part of the action.
We need fewer motos in races.
I get that means fewer photos etc but they affect the outcome and safety way too much1 -
When there's a big crowd on the road isn't it almost a necessity to have a moto in front to clear a path?1
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Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0
