TDF 2023: Stage 3:– Amorebieta-Etxano to Bayonne, 185km ***Spoilers***
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There was some super sketchy moment when someone pulled their cleat at about 1k to go"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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I disagree with this - I think he went full bore today. Cavendish almost always sits up if he's not going to win but carried on driving almost to the line. It'd be interesting to know why - was he just testing himself against everyone else even though he knew he was out of position? He surely can't have been hoping for half a dozen DQs - the barrier didn't come out that far!daniel_b said:I suspect Cav will be working his way into the race day by day, his legs will be relatively tired from the previous two days in all likelihood.
A couple of flat stages to test the legs but not go 100% full gas, and then probably target 3 or 4 specific stages to try and get that win.2 -
Yeah he kept going way past the point he usually does ..Lanterne_Rogue said:
I disagree with this - I think he went full bore today. Cavendish almost always sits up if he's not going to win but carried on driving almost to the line. It'd be interesting to know why - was he just testing himself against everyone else even though he knew he was out of position? He surely can't have been hoping for half a dozen DQs - the barrier didn't come out that far!daniel_b said:I suspect Cav will be working his way into the race day by day, his legs will be relatively tired from the previous two days in all likelihood.
A couple of flat stages to test the legs but not go 100% full gas, and then probably target 3 or 4 specific stages to try and get that win."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Cav was in there ...it can happen . Philpsen and WvA were fast ...so was Caleb who came up real quick"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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I suspect he wants to give a less than superstar team a bit of confidence in him so Renshaw can whip them into shapeLanterne_Rogue said:
I disagree with this - I think he went full bore today. Cavendish almost always sits up if he's not going to win but carried on driving almost to the line. It'd be interesting to know why - was he just testing himself against everyone else even though he knew he was out of position? He surely can't have been hoping for half a dozen DQs - the barrier didn't come out that far!daniel_b said:I suspect Cav will be working his way into the race day by day, his legs will be relatively tired from the previous two days in all likelihood.
A couple of flat stages to test the legs but not go 100% full gas, and then probably target 3 or 4 specific stages to try and get that win.Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Cav should pay lafay to give him a lead out"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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LLS put in a good shift for him again.0
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I would put it like ...it's not impossible.
WvA did the right thing sitting up ... Would have lost anyway"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Well...
(Important caveat - we've seen again and again that the fastest sprinter isn't one in the wind. But still...)1 -
I'm being optimisticLanterne_Rogue said:
I disagree with this - I think he went full bore today. Cavendish almost always sits up if he's not going to win but carried on driving almost to the line. It'd be interesting to know why - was he just testing himself against everyone else even though he knew he was out of position? He surely can't have been hoping for half a dozen DQs - the barrier didn't come out that far!daniel_b said:I suspect Cav will be working his way into the race day by day, his legs will be relatively tired from the previous two days in all likelihood.
A couple of flat stages to test the legs but not go 100% full gas, and then probably target 3 or 4 specific stages to try and get that win.
I guess we will find out in the fullness of time.
My fingers will be crossed.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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Lafay in green on the same number of points as Philipsen. Good work from him.kingstongraham said:
So he only doesn't keep green if Wout or Mads win the sprint finish. Not sure about Philipsen, because they'd be on same number of points. Would it be Lafay because of GC position?kingstongraham said:
If he gets 3rd at the intermediate, he's much more likely to be in green tomorrow.rick_chasey said:Lafay making a move in green.
Just clipped off the front, not really sure what he's doing or where he's going.1 -
I think he'll be conscious that UCI points are important to Astana. He could afford to squander them at Quick Step and HTC. And besides, this is the last time he'll ever do this. Why not make the most of it?Lanterne_Rogue said:
I disagree with this - I think he went full bore today. Cavendish almost always sits up if he's not going to win but carried on driving almost to the line. It'd be interesting to know why - was he just testing himself against everyone else even though he knew he was out of position? He surely can't have been hoping for half a dozen DQs - the barrier didn't come out that far!Twitter: @RichN951 -
Has Cavendish ever won the first available sprint stage?
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Was in yellow one year wasn't he?tailwindhome said:Has Cavendish ever won the first available sprint stage?
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In 2009 he won the first two. In 2016 he won and wore the yellow jerseytailwindhome said:Has Cavendish ever won the first available sprint stage?
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Yes of course.TheBigBean said:
Was in yellow one year wasn't he?tailwindhome said:Has Cavendish ever won the first available sprint stage?
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In my mind he *always* takes a couple of stages to get that first win. Clearly that's not based on fact.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!1 -
People have tremendous memories for these races.
Very little 'sticks' with me.
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Jack Haig lost a minute and a half today.
Not sure whether he would be considered a GC player though"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Bordeaux stage is a likely target.daniel_b said:
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A couple of flat stages to test the legs but not go 100% full gas, and then probably target 3 or 4 specific stages to try and get that win.
...The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Cav will take the record (and become the most successful Tour rider ever ) on the Champs with Merckx watching.
Merckx will make a comeback next year to try to take the record back.3 -
And I was there, what a dayRichN95. said:
In 2009 he won the first two. In 2016 he won and wore the yellow jerseytailwindhome said:Has Cavendish ever won the first available sprint stage?
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Was a tremendous watch from 6.7 km out if you focus on Alpecin and QS mainly. Alpecin got swamped by the first big roundabout and got completely lost. QS was bossing all the roundabouts from the front.rick_chasey said:Really quality leadout work from Alpecin there.
MvdP then moves Philipsen up in the bunch between roundabouts and they are still working on regathering while QS look entirely in control in the driver's seat.
Sinkeldam then makes a super aggressive move bumping another rider out of the way to rejoin the remaining Alpecin train.
The tide then shifts that they are able to stay in the wheels while some of the other sprint trains are working in the wind; QS among those working.
By the time Alpecin finally regather they are left with 3-4 riders while most other teams only have 2. Quick last surge then puts them clearly ahead and MvdP has probably taken over from Danny van Poppel as the best lead out man in the world. His final surge dropped Philipsen off with still some work to do, but from first position.
Was really fun to watch the organised chaos. All the sprint trains except ironically QS look to still have a lot to work on. QS's cohesion was by far the best, but they ran out of legs. Maybe they need to start a bit later and surge a bit harder.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20231 -
Philipsen is a good sprinter but he’s bloody lucky to be on that team.
Casual MSR and Roubaix winner as a key man in the lead out, oof.0 -
Also annual reminder on the Dutch TV how good a bloke Kittel is (and how many times do you hear a German with perfect Dutch?!)0
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NOS do a classic on their Dutch sprinters.
They ask Jakobsen about the sprint line and he’s saying how it’s not on, it takes the shine off Philipsen’s win etc
Cut to Groenewegen;
“Yeah it was absolutely fine”
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Hadn’t realised Koen de Kort lost 3 fingers on his right hand in an accident where a car made it onto I think an off road course. Left with thumb and index on his right hand.
Now runs kit for Lidl.0 -
Apparently he was in an off road vehicle/buggy with a roll cage going to meet friends on an off road track after a training ride. He rolled the vehicle and the cage did its job but he had his hand holding the cage so the fingers were crushed.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]1
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Makes more sense. Hard to listen between buffering on the trainDeVlaeminck said:Apparently he was in an off road vehicle/buggy with a roll cage going to meet friends on an off road track after a training ride. He rolled the vehicle and the cage did its job but he had his hand holding the cage so the fingers were crushed.
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He has a Dutch partner (she played for the Dutch female national team), been with her about 5 years, and he has lived in the Netherlands the last 2 years.rick_chasey said:Also annual reminder on the Dutch TV how good a bloke Kittel is (and how many times do you hear a German with perfect Dutch?!)
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