British Olympic cyclist arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html



Any idea who this is?

A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.

The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.

The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,257
    A bug bear of mine.
    Innocent until proven guilty. No chance of the innocent leading a normal life once named.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html



    Any idea who this is?

    A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.

    The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.

    The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
    why do you want to know?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,707
    MattFalle said:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html



    Any idea who this is?

    A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.

    The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.

    The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
    why do you want to know?
    Presumably curiosity - it's natural isn't it ?
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2022
    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 14,326
    Hey let's just type some names and comit libel. What a jape.
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,707
    MattFalle said:

    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    .

    MattFalle said:

    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?
    not really, no, especially in a case like this.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,502
    That just tells you all you need to know about the likes of the so called newspapers like the mail. Absolute shysters.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,127
    Reading between the lines it would seem to be someone relatively obscure
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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 8,707
    MattFalle said:

    .

    MattFalle said:

    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?
    not really, no, especially in a case like this.
    We'll just have to disagree - curiosity is a human trait - it's no different to hearing a rider has been popped for epo and wondering who it might be.

    It only becomes a bad thing when you indulge in speculation which can obviously implicate the innocent.
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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,529
    Dan Roan, where are you?
  • twotoebenny
    twotoebenny Posts: 1,399
    orraloon said:

    Dan Roan, where are you?

    likely on the world cup gravy train feigning outrage at Qatar...
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 6,742

    orraloon said:

    Dan Roan, where are you?

    likely on the world cup gravy train feigning outrage at Qatar... whilst living it up
    in a 6 star all expenses paid hotel, with free tickets to all the matches, with hospitality thrown in
    FTFY

  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 39,872
    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,502
    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    cos that's what the mail, and it's so called readers, thrive on.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2022
    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    because its the daily heil and its evil racist xenophobic vile disgusting filth and its readers aren't any better.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,537
    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
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  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    No, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to being considered innocent until proven guilty.

    Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.

    The justice system isn't perfect and there is definitely a weakness in helping victims of sexual crimes, but that doesn't mean accused should be named publicly until guilt is proven.

    Plus, once names are in the press then questions can rise over jury impartiality.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    flick that suggestion around and come back to us with your thoughts
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    redvision said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    No, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to being considered innocent until proven guilty.

    Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.

    The justice system isn't perfect and there is definitely a weakness in helping victims of sexual crimes, but that doesn't mean accused should be named publicly until guilt is proven.

    Plus, once names are in the press then questions can rise over jury impartiality.
    this, exactly.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,529
    redvision said:


    Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.

    Unless of course the individual is one of this, or any month's batch of 'suspended' #toryscum MPs
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 25,257

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    This is why. Some falsely accused men commit suicide.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5837985/forklift-driver-took-own-life-false-rape-accusation/
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,537

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
    given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 14,326
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
    given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?
    It is a balanced issue, with arguments both ways. If the legal profession can't decide on the least worst option, I'd be inclined away from being as certain as an MF.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    So is that a "no i don't want to be named?"
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    or a "yes, I don't mind being named?"
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 14,326
    It is an I don't know.
  • Defblade
    Defblade Posts: 137
    I notice today's British Cycling members news has a mention of their safeguarding team half way down and how to report concerns etc... co-incidence?
  • carbonclem
    carbonclem Posts: 1,537
    MattFalle said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
    given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?
    I wouldn’t want the publicity of any crime I was charged with , but generally, you don’t enjoy the privilege of anonymity in the situation, do you?
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