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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html



Any idea who this is?

A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.

The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.

The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 21,927
    A bug bear of mine.
    Innocent until proven guilty. No chance of the innocent leading a normal life once named.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    rick_chasey said:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html



    Any idea who this is?

    A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.

    The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.

    The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
    why do you want to know?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,305
    MattFalle said:

    rick_chasey said:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html



    Any idea who this is?

    A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.

    The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.

    The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
    why do you want to know?
    Presumably curiosity - it's natural isn't it ?
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  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2022
    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 11,509
    Hey let's just type some names and comit libel. What a jape.
  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,305
    MattFalle said:

    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?
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  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    DeVlaeminck said:

    MattFalle said:

    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?
    not really, no, especially in a case like this.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 10,715
    That just tells you all you need to know about the likes of the so called newspapers like the mail. Absolute shysters.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 26,460
    Reading between the lines it would seem to be someone relatively obscure
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  • DeVlaeminckDeVlaeminck Posts: 8,305
    MattFalle said:

    .

    DeVlaeminck said:

    MattFalle said:

    No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.

    Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"

    Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.

    Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.

    Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?
    not really, no, especially in a case like this.
    We'll just have to disagree - curiosity is a human trait - it's no different to hearing a rider has been popped for epo and wondering who it might be.

    It only becomes a bad thing when you indulge in speculation which can obviously implicate the innocent.
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  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 11,212
    Dan Roan, where are you?
  • twotoebennytwotoebenny Posts: 1,250
    orraloon said:

    Dan Roan, where are you?

    likely on the world cup gravy train feigning outrage at Qatar...
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 5,714
    twotoebenny said:

    orraloon said:

    Dan Roan, where are you?

    likely on the world cup gravy train feigning outrage at Qatar... whilst living it up
    in a 6 star all expenses paid hotel, with free tickets to all the matches, with hospitality thrown in
    FTFY

  • ProssPross Posts: 34,852
    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 10,715
    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    cos that's what the mail, and it's so called readers, thrive on.
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  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited December 2022
    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    because its the daily heil and its evil racist xenophobic vile disgusting filth and its readers aren't any better.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 1,306
    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
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  • redvisionredvision Posts: 2,877
    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    No, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to being considered innocent until proven guilty.

    Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.

    The justice system isn't perfect and there is definitely a weakness in helping victims of sexual crimes, but that doesn't mean accused should be named publicly until guilt is proven.

    Plus, once names are in the press then questions can rise over jury impartiality.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    flick that suggestion around and come back to us with your thoughts
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    redvision said:

    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    No, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to being considered innocent until proven guilty.

    Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.

    The justice system isn't perfect and there is definitely a weakness in helping victims of sexual crimes, but that doesn't mean accused should be named publicly until guilt is proven.

    Plus, once names are in the press then questions can rise over jury impartiality.
    this, exactly.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • orraloonorraloon Posts: 11,212
    redvision said:


    Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.

    Unless of course the individual is one of this, or any month's batch of 'suspended' #toryscum MPs
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 21,927
    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    This is why. Some falsely accused men commit suicide.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5837985/forklift-driver-took-own-life-false-rape-accusation/
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 1,306
    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
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  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    carbonclem said:

    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
    given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 11,509
    MattFalle said:

    carbonclem said:

    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
    given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?
    It is a balanced issue, with arguments both ways. If the legal profession can't decide on the least worst option, I'd be inclined away from being as certain as an MF.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    So is that a "no i don't want to be named?"
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    or a "yes, I don't mind being named?"
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 11,509
    It is an I don't know.
  • DefbladeDefblade Posts: 114
    I notice today's British Cycling members news has a mention of their safeguarding team half way down and how to report concerns etc... co-incidence?
  • carbonclemcarbonclem Posts: 1,306
    MattFalle said:

    carbonclem said:

    carbonclem said:

    Pross said:

    The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.

    Why report it at all before someone is charged?

    Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).
    I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
    I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.
    given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?
    I wouldn’t want the publicity of any crime I was charged with , but generally, you don’t enjoy the privilege of anonymity in the situation, do you?
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