British Olympic cyclist arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault
Any idea who this is?
The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.
The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.
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A bug bear of mine.
Innocent until proven guilty. No chance of the innocent leading a normal life once named.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
why do you want to know?rick_chasey said:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html
Any idea who this is?A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.
The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.
The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Presumably curiosity - it's natural isn't it ?MattFalle said:
why do you want to know?rick_chasey said:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-11499179/British-Olympic-cyclist-arrested-suspicion-rape-indecent-assault.html
Any idea who this is?A British Olympic cyclist has been arrested on suspicion of rape and indecent assault.
The ex-rider has held a prominent position in professional cycling after his retirement from racing. He has worked with some of the biggest names in Britain’s most successful Olympic sport.
The Mail on Sunday is aware of the suspect’s identity but cannot reveal it for legal reasons. Police said that the man had been bailed while an investigation into the allegations was ongoing.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.
Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"
Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.
Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.
.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Hey let's just type some names and comit libel. What a jape.0
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Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?MattFalle said:No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.
Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"
Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.
Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
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not really, no, especially in a case like this.DeVlaeminck said:
Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?MattFalle said:No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.
Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"
Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.
Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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That just tells you all you need to know about the likes of the so called newspapers like the mail. Absolute shysters.Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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We'll just have to disagree - curiosity is a human trait - it's no different to hearing a rider has been popped for epo and wondering who it might be.MattFalle said:.
not really, no, especially in a case like this.DeVlaeminck said:
Curiosity is natural - that doesn't mean we should speculate here but it'd be odd not to wonder who it is wouldn't it ?MattFalle said:No. in cases like this its nosiness and judgemental.
Curiosity is "ooooh. I wonder what colour next door are painting their lounge?"
Rick is after tittle tattle Daily Mail nosiness of the worst tittle tattle classes sort.
Let the CPS/courts do their bit hen he can pass judgement.
It only becomes a bad thing when you indulge in speculation which can obviously implicate the innocent.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
Dan Roan, where are you?0
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likely on the world cup gravy train feigning outrage at Qatar...orraloon said:Dan Roan, where are you?
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FTFYtwotoebenny said:
likely on the world cup gravy train feigning outrage at Qatar... whilst living it uporraloon said:Dan Roan, where are you?
in a 6 star all expenses paid hotel, with free tickets to all the matches, with hospitality thrown in
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The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?1 -
cos that's what the mail, and it's so called readers, thrive on.Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
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because its the daily heil and its evil racist xenophobic vile disgusting filth and its readers aren't any better.Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
No, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to being considered innocent until proven guilty.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.
The justice system isn't perfect and there is definitely a weakness in helping victims of sexual crimes, but that doesn't mean accused should be named publicly until guilt is proven.
Plus, once names are in the press then questions can rise over jury impartiality.1 -
flick that suggestion around and come back to us with your thoughtscarbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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this, exactly.redvision said:
No, it's wrong. Everyone is entitled to being considered innocent until proven guilty.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
Today, even if the case is dismissed, an allegation as serious as sexual assault is enough to destroy a person, and they will remain tarnished.
The justice system isn't perfect and there is definitely a weakness in helping victims of sexual crimes, but that doesn't mean accused should be named publicly until guilt is proven.
Plus, once names are in the press then questions can rise over jury impartiality..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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This is why. Some falsely accused men commit suicide.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5837985/forklift-driver-took-own-life-false-rape-accusation/The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.1 -
I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0 -
given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?carbonclem said:
I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It is a balanced issue, with arguments both ways. If the legal profession can't decide on the least worst option, I'd be inclined away from being as certain as an MF.MattFalle said:
given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?carbonclem said:
I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.
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So is that a "no i don't want to be named?".
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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or a "yes, I don't mind being named?".
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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It is an I don't know.1
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I notice today's British Cycling members news has a mention of their safeguarding team half way down and how to report concerns etc... co-incidence?0
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I wouldn’t want the publicity of any crime I was charged with , but generally, you don’t enjoy the privilege of anonymity in the situation, do you?MattFalle said:
given the type of alleged crime, would you be happy to be named if you were innocent, got charged but at the end of the were found not guilty?carbonclem said:
I was ahead of myself here. I just read again and he’s not yet charged. Fair enough.carbonclem said:
Isn’t there some merit in identifying people where other victims may feel empowered to come forward if they feel they aren’t alone? Similar to Saville (in principle).Pross said:The Mail: “We know the identity but won’t give the name. However, here’s a load of clues to allow you to speculate”.
Why report it at all before someone is charged?
I guess it depends if it’s thought it’s an isolated incident or may be a pattern.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
