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secretsamsecretsam Posts: 5,036
edited September 2022 in Road buying advice
Just seen that this guy was dissing Hunt wheels on his channel.
I understand he's quite a marmite character, what do people think?
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  • thistle_thistle_ Posts: 6,971
    secretsam said:

    I understand he's quite a marmite character, what do people think?

    he's quite a marmite character :smile:
  • pippi_langsamer-2pippi_langsamer-2 Posts: 1,470
    What do we think of his opinion on Hunt wheels or his character?

    I agree with him on the Hunt wheels.

    He's a character that indeed you either love or hate.....or maybe somewhere in-between. I like the fact he exposes a lot of these so-called Big Players for what they are (similar to Luescher Teknik).

    He seems to have calmed-down a bit (in his language), since he's gained "popularity", and gone multi-platform etc with endorsements.... :D
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    secretsam said:

    Just seen that this guy was dissing Hunt wheels on his channel.
    I understand he's quite a marmite character, what do people think?

    Saw this episode as well - tbh I've only fully watched that one, the Bowman one and maybe 5 mins here or there of another couple.

    Tbh, not my cup of tea - obvs knows what he is talking about (or is a very good bluffer) bit shouty, and i reckon he would talk at you instead of explaining stuff to you if it was just you and him.

    His comment at the very end of the Hunt video re hairdressers was very weird as well.

    Overall - nah, not so much. Much more watchable people who also know what they are on about out there.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • feelgoodlostfeelgoodlost Posts: 298
    As an aside from his teardowns, which admittedly aren't to everyone's taste, his bottom brackets are incredibly well made and his customer service is spot on. I've emailed him at 10.30 on a Friday night and he replied within minutes.
    https://www.strava.com/athletes/442763
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 11,724
    Hambini is definitely chilli marmite. Personally don't like hunts, overpriced overhyped wheels.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • veronese68veronese68 Posts: 26,906 Lives Here
    Haven't seen the video, but I've seen a couple of his others. Seems like he's a bit of a contrarian, but he does back it up with sound reasoning and seems like he knows what he's talking about. I don't like his style, but wouldn't dismiss his opinion because I don't like the way he delivers it.
    Don't know what he says about the Hunt wheels, but as Oxo says they seem overpriced and overhyped for what appear to be pretty generic off the shelf wheels.
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 13,693
    He does know his stuff, but he's not the only youtube engineer. What I dislike is that he insults pretty much everything, and lacks context. He has a aerospace background, and that's his barometer. Why? Cars aren't built to aerospace standards. Neither are boats. Because they don't have to be.

    He's a pillock, basically. That bloke who does similar reviews based out of Malaysia is a better bet for a balanced review.
  • katanikatani Posts: 126
    edited September 2022
    First.Aspect said:

    He does know his stuff, but he's not the only youtube engineer. What I dislike is that he insults pretty much everything, and lacks context. He has a aerospace background, and that's his barometer. Why? Cars aren't built to aerospace standards. Neither are boats. Because they don't have to be.

    He's a pillock, basically. That bloke who does similar reviews based out of Malaysia is a better bet for a balanced review.

    PeakTorque?

    I think Hambini's demeanour has a lot to do with his high-functioning autism, although the first couple of videos he uploaded onto YT, mainly talking tribology relating to the cycling industry, were nothing like what he's been uploading more lately.
    Don't think he has ever said he expected bicycles to be built to aerospace standards though? That was more brought up in relation to his exposing of the false claims the bike industry was making for their latest developments in bicycle aerodynamics i.e. golf-ball like dimples on deep section rims, tire sizes, shapes of frame sets etc.
  • exlaserexlaser Posts: 261
    Hambini presentation skills are s@@t. But at no time is he saying bikes should be built to aerospace or even motor industry standards.
    What he is saying is most bikes are not built to the cycle industry own standards! 😀
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  • dannbodgedannbodge Posts: 1,152
    As other people have said he's marmite.

    I quite like him as he's not worried about standing up and telling it how it is.

    He's the only "reviewer" that shows you measurement data etc, although he only gets bad frames etc so I'm not sure it's a fair review of the whole company.

    Agree with him on hunt wheels though. They're overpriced and overhyped, a bit like muc-off "lubes"

    His BBs are top quality though.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 11,724
    Most of his work that gets focused on YT etc is frames sent in by dejected owners or frustrated bike shops that can't sort the issues out themselves. His BB,s are bang on and alot are made to overcome dodgy BB frame alignment. Ok his mannerisms are unique but we'll put that down to his HFA. Love how he doesn't care who he upsets within manufacturing. He's the same within his own proffesion as well, it's either right or wrong no middle ground of it will do or it's near enough.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • feelgoodlostfeelgoodlost Posts: 298
    dannbodge said:

    As other people have said he's marmite.

    I quite like him as he's not worried about standing up and telling it how it is.

    He's the only "reviewer" that shows you measurement data etc, although he only gets bad frames etc so I'm not sure it's a fair review of the whole company.

    Agree with him on hunt wheels though. They're overpriced and overhyped, a bit like muc-off "lubes"

    His BBs are top quality though.

    Wouldn't say he focuses solely on bad frames. He's quite openly sung the praises of Look, Time and Winspace frames.

    Would agree on his BBs. Can't fault mine at all and has made bearing replacement a doddle.
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 13,693
    katani said:

    First.Aspect said:

    He does know his stuff, but he's not the only youtube engineer. What I dislike is that he insults pretty much everything, and lacks context. He has a aerospace background, and that's his barometer. Why? Cars aren't built to aerospace standards. Neither are boats. Because they don't have to be.

    He's a pillock, basically. That bloke who does similar reviews based out of Malaysia is a better bet for a balanced review.

    PeakTorque?

    I think Hambini's demeanour has a lot to do with his high-functioning autism, although the first couple of videos he uploaded onto YT, mainly talking tribology relating to the cycling industry, were nothing like what he's been uploading more lately.
    Don't think he has ever said he expected bicycles to be built to aerospace standards though? That was more brought up in relation to his exposing of the false claims the bike industry was making for their latest developments in bicycle aerodynamics i.e. golf-ball like dimples on deep section rims, tire sizes, shapes of frame sets etc.
    Not literally, but his critiques of composite manufacture is implicitly pointing out flaws that are of little or no consequence in a bike frame. Yes, it could be better, but it demonstrably doesn't need to be.

    He is correct about the aero marketing technobabble, but again this is railing against consumerism isn't it? It is rather old man shouting at the sea and gets tired very quickly.

    He has historically very greatly emphasised his autism and race as an excuse for being a pillock and an accusation when someone suggests he's a pillock.

    There are a lot of people somewhere on the spectrum who aren't unpleasant pillocks, so it is probably quite offensive to all of them that Hambini's demeanour is excused in this way.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    do the numbers he quotes actually mean anything if you're not an engineer and understand what he's blathering about?

    We can all waffle on as SMEs in our particular fields but unless you know what we're talking about its just noise.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 1,172
    do the numbers he quotes actually mean anything if you're not an engineer and understand what he's blathering about?


    Yes, when it comes to BB tolerances in particular. In terms of his bicycle area of expertise, he focusses on fabricating custom bottom brackets. Most of the frames he is looking at arrive from customers who have had issues with poor bearing life, failing cranks etc. due largely to bottom bracket shells not manufactured within the specified tolerance, lack of concentricity and so on.

    For example, if a bb shell is undersized and your crank bearings, crank spindle are correctly sized, over time this is going to compress and deform your bearings.

    He is pretty rigorous on tolerances (hence why he spouts the numbers constantly) as it can have a big effect on longevity of parts. In extreme cases, any mating of threads (or any fabricated part with a tolerance) badly of out whack could break and cause a severe failure.

    Sorry long winded, but I manfacture threaded stuff, get it wrong and it can go badly wrong, depending on the application!

    To be fair to him, he has shown a lot of pretty poor manufacturing standards across the bike industry. It quite clearly shows a complete lack of quality assurance. My business is ISO 9001 accredited, as are my customers. Anything out of spec would be picked up without question. So either bike manufacturers are ignoring it or not even checking it.

  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
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    MidlandsGrimpeur2 said:

    do the numbers he quotes actually mean anything if you're not an engineer and understand what he's blathering about?


    Yes, when it comes to BB tolerances in particular. In terms of his bicycle area of expertise, he focusses on fabricating custom bottom brackets. Most of the frames he is looking at arrive from customers who have had issues with poor bearing life, failing cranks etc. due largely to bottom bracket shells not manufactured within the specified tolerance, lack of concentricity and so on.

    For example, if a bb shell is undersized and your crank bearings, crank spindle are correctly sized, over time this is going to compress and deform your bearings.

    He is pretty rigorous on tolerances (hence why he spouts the numbers constantly) as it can have a big effect on longevity of parts. In extreme cases, any mating of threads (or any fabricated part with a tolerance) badly of out whack could break and cause a severe failure.

    Sorry long winded, but I manfacture threaded stuff, get it wrong and it can go badly wrong, depending on the application!

    To be fair to him, he has shown a lot of pretty poor manufacturing standards across the bike industry. It quite clearly shows a complete lack of quality assurance. My business is ISO 9001 accredited, as are my customers. Anything out of spec would be picked up without question. So either bike manufacturers are ignoring it or not even checking it.

    groovy - grazie!
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MidlandsGrimpeur2MidlandsGrimpeur2 Posts: 1,172
    groovy - grazie!

    No worries MF!
  • trevor.hall12trevor.hall12 Posts: 386
    The Dolan R1 he's done yesterday was utterly pathetic ,with the pressfit BB being removed by thumb ,Dolan refused a warranty claim only offering a crash replacement for £750 .They deserve every bit of it on that alone ,
  • thegreatdividethegreatdivide Posts: 5,790
    He’s popular with the incel cycling community.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    incel?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • wongataawongataa Posts: 1,001
    MattFalle said:

    incel?

    It is quite easy to perform a simple Google search to find the meaning.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644


    yeah, really useful. cheers wanga fella.

    so does this mean incel people understand welding better than others?
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • secretsamsecretsam Posts: 5,036
    Interesting. Hadn't realised he was autistic, which explains some behavioural quirks, but also possibly his attention to detail.
    I have heard from others that his BBs were tip-top.
    Interesting that his view on Hunt wheels is shared by a few here. What's a better equivalent for similar money? I had considered them, not so much now.
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • ibr17xviiibr17xvii Posts: 1,065
    secretsam said:

    Interesting. Hadn't realised he was autistic, which explains some behavioural quirks, but also possibly his attention to detail.
    I have heard from others that his BBs were tip-top.
    Interesting that his view on Hunt wheels is shared by a few here. What's a better equivalent for similar money? I had considered them, not so much now.


    No experience of them personally but the Prime wheels always seem to get good reviews online plus on here.

    Talking of Hambini he rates some of the Chinese wheelsets highly as well.
  • daniel_bdaniel_b Posts: 11,406
    secretsam said:

    Interesting. Hadn't realised he was autistic, which explains some behavioural quirks, but also possibly his attention to detail.
    I have heard from others that his BBs were tip-top.
    Interesting that his view on Hunt wheels is shared by a few here. What's a better equivalent for similar money? I had considered them, not so much now.

    I'd suggest Winspace, Scribe, Cero.
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 13,693
    secretsam said:

    Interesting. Hadn't realised he was autistic, which explains some behavioural quirks, but also possibly his attention to detail.
    I have heard from others that his BBs were tip-top.
    Interesting that his view on Hunt wheels is shared by a few here. What's a better equivalent for similar money? I had considered them, not so much now.

    It doesn't explain the behavioral quirks that involve him being a c0ck. As I said upthread, you need to be careful not to offend autistic people this way. There is a Venn diagram of c0cks and autistim. There's a bit of overlap in the Hambini region.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Planet X
    Selcof
    Winspace
    Prime
    Chinese blokes

    All use exactly the same parts as Hunt but at far less money. Hunts are trendy but average components with a v high price tag and v bad vfm.

    Full discussion here:

    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/13114684/hunt-wheels/p7

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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalleMattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Watched some vids by some Aussie bloke called Cam something or other yesterday. 3 or 4 of them while Zwifting.

    I have honestly no idea what he was on about. Whole thing jumped around lke a frog on acid.

    Not really very recommended.
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • thegreatdividethegreatdivide Posts: 5,790
    edited September 2022
    Yeah, it's the autism innit.

    The fact that he instigated some of this and his 'fanboys' all piled in says a lot.

    https://ridewriterepeat.com/2022/01/26/six-bloopers-of-being-a-woman-in-the-cycling-industry/
  • secretsamsecretsam Posts: 5,036
    MattFalle said:

    Planet X
    Selcof
    Winspace
    Prime
    Chinese blokes

    All use exactly the same parts as Hunt but at far less money. Hunts are trendy but average components with a v high price tag and v bad vfm.

    Full discussion here:

    https://forum.bikeradar.com/discussion/13114684/hunt-wheels/p7

    Thanks
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
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