Filippo Ganna Hour Record Attempt
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pblakeney said:
Hmmm. I'd give that 10 years with tech advances.DeVlaeminck said:pblakeney said:
I doubt this record will stand for 3 years, 5 at the outside, far less 20.DeVlaeminck said:
Not in any of our lifetimes would be my guess. I think there's more chance this record will stand for 20 yearsDorset_Boy said:I think his road performances were adversely impacted by his training to blow this record apart.
Incredible.
When will the 60 km barrier be breached? 10, 20 years?
Probably not but I think there's more chance than 60km being broken
I can see the UCI moving into the 21st century. 😉
I'm assuming the low hanging fruit in terms of aerodynamics and drivetrain friction have already been picked.
This step forward is really because Ganna is a top time trial specialist in his prime who has been given the time and resources to focus on the record. We aren't going to get a rider who is just several km better than Ganna so it's back to thinking what tech is going to give that advantage.
I'm thinking of Paula Radcliffe's marathon record - that has only really been broken because of advances in shoe technology. I can't see anything similar on the horizon in cycling that the UCI would allow.[Castle Donington Ladies FC - going up in '22]0 -
There is always the altitude card to play… I don’t know what the real advantage is, but I never thought that Campenaerts was anything special… certainly not on Wiggins level or budget, so there must be something thereDeVlaeminck said:pblakeney said:
Hmmm. I'd give that 10 years with tech advances.DeVlaeminck said:pblakeney said:
I doubt this record will stand for 3 years, 5 at the outside, far less 20.DeVlaeminck said:
Not in any of our lifetimes would be my guess. I think there's more chance this record will stand for 20 yearsDorset_Boy said:I think his road performances were adversely impacted by his training to blow this record apart.
Incredible.
When will the 60 km barrier be breached? 10, 20 years?
Probably not but I think there's more chance than 60km being broken
I can see the UCI moving into the 21st century. 😉
I'm assuming the low hanging fruit in terms of aerodynamics and drivetrain friction have already been picked.
This step forward is really because Ganna is a top time trial specialist in his prime who has been given the time and resources to focus on the record. We aren't going to get a rider who is just several km better than Ganna so it's back to thinking what tech is going to give that advantage.
I'm thinking of Paula Radcliffe's marathon record - that has only really been broken because of advances in shoe technology. I can't see anything similar on the horizon in cycling that the UCI would allow.
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That was my point about the UCI moving into the 21st century.DeVlaeminck said:
... I can't see anything similar on the horizon in cycling that the UCI would allow.
They hold back development.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
pblakeney said:
That was my point about the UCI moving into the 21st century.DeVlaeminck said:
... I can't see anything similar on the horizon in cycling that the UCI would allow.
They hold back development.
Yes if they change the rules to allow more aerodynamic machines then you'd expect the distance to be beaten - I'm sure there are human powered vehicles that have already gone further or at least could do so today - that wouldn't really be beating Ganna's record though.
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That's like saying Ganna didn't beat Moser's record.
I view it as progression and all records will be beaten. Only my opinion though, obviously.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Yes it can be beaten - what I said was it's more likely to stand for 20 years than go out to 60km .
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The HPV hour is some insane speed ... IircDeVlaeminck said:pblakeney said:
That was my point about the UCI moving into the 21st century.DeVlaeminck said:
... I can't see anything similar on the horizon in cycling that the UCI would allow.
They hold back development.
Yes if they change the rules to allow more aerodynamic machines then you'd expect the distance to be beaten - I'm sure there are human powered vehicles that have already gone further or at least could do so today - that wouldn't really be beating Ganna's record though."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
90 km+ in the hour for fully enclosed recumbent apparently"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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Would be interesting to see a world class engine in a fully fared superbike. 100kms+??mididoctors said:90 km+ in the hour for fully enclosed recumbent apparently
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On a tangential note, Ganna and Bigham did alright in Worlds IP qualifying today; 4:00.6 for the former (vs Milan for gold tonight) and 4:05.1 for the latter (vs Oliveira for bronze).
Barring a shocker, it'll be Boardman '96 in reverse (though a WR is unlikely in my view).0 -
Nope, he did the full reverse Boardman after all!
3:59.636 FTW
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Didn't even look like he was breathing hard at the end. Makes you sick. 🤮notquite6foot said:Nope, he did the full reverse Boardman after all!
3:59.636 FTW
Some rider.0 -
If he sort out his start.... 1.46 secs down after a couple of laps! Then a WR.0
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Sub 4min IP. Pretty sweet week for him.2020/2021/2022 Metric Century Challenge Winner0
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Nah, he was obviously on a monstrous gear. After his 1:07.4 opening kilo the flying splits were 57.9, 57.3 and 56.8 - many a national TP quartet from five years ago would have been happy with those splits.Dorset_Boy said:If he sort out his start.... 1.46 secs down after a couple of laps! Then a WR.
Andrea Collinelli had a similar advantage over Boardman quite early in the 1996 IP.0 -
Faster than the TP world record prior to CWG 2002.
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He's always ridden like that. The first time I saw him ride a pursuit, it looked like he was just casually riding the first 2.5k, then put his head down and destroyed his competitor. It was ridiculous.Dorset_Boy said:If he sort out his start.... 1.46 secs down after a couple of laps! Then a WR.
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