TDF 2022:- Stage 4: Dunkerque to Calais, 171.5kms ***Spoilers***

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    I only really started watching from the top of the hill - or at least I was in and out and only caught the attack at that point - - sounds like there was more of an opportunity than I realised.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    DeVlaeminck said:

    I only really started watching from the top of the hill - or at least I was in and out and only caught the attack at that point - - sounds like there was more of an opportunity than I realised.

    Tiesj Benoot forced the initial split, both Ineos and Jumbo had numbers and all their GC riders there, but then Wout pushed it harder and blew it up
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  • rick_chasey
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I'm not sure which channel this was



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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    rick_chasey said:

    Looks like some new version of binary.

    Would certainly look good on a form guide on the race card at a horse race.
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 586
    Pogacar realises he was lucky that the other GC guys didn't manage to get on Wouts wheel. There's a clip of him telling wout on twitter.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    edited July 2022
    bm5 said:

    Pogacar realises he was lucky that the other GC guys didn't manage to get on Wouts wheel. There's a clip of him telling wout on twitter.


    WVA maybe could have taken Vingegaard and perhaps Roglic clear, with Ineos support, but rode for the stage win instead. It will be interesting to see what happens on the cobbles if either of the JV GC riders get in trouble. Arguably WVA's stage win in the 2020 crosswinds cost Roglic that Tour.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    For all that there was a brief window of opportunity to put time into Pogacar, the situation was clearly engineered for WvA to go for the stage - with JV gc with him if they could hold his wheel. There were only a few seconds to decide, and Ineos in the mix also made it confusing.
    I think today was WvA's price/reward for what he'll be asked to do tomorrow.

    That said, I think both JV and Ineos will try and put the pressure on tomorrow. Ineos certainly have a team to do it - if Geraint can still ride cobbles
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,334
    I don't think anyone else ever really got enough of a gap to go clear as a bunch though, and even if they had as a result of WVA hanging back I think it would have triggered a more organised chase.

    As it was the chase didn't work as only the sprint teams had any interest in hauling it back, and at least half of them had lost their sprinter. The GC teams really weren't bothered.
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  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,655
    Lanterne_Rogue said:

    I don't think anyone else ever really got enough of a gap to go clear as a bunch though, and even if they had as a result of WVA hanging back I think it would have triggered a more organised chase.

    As it was the chase didn't work as only the sprint teams had any interest in hauling it back, and at least half of them had lost their sprinter. The GC teams really weren't bothered.

    On the subject of the sprint teams failing to get organised ...

    "Cyclists are f***** dumb" - Mads P.

    He certainly thought there were enough teams with a sprinter still in it to organise a chase
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,475
    DeVlaeminck said:

    Re MvdP I wonder if he just didn't anticipate an attack on that climb sticking so was out of position when it went.

    I think he didn't care about this stage. He was trundling around way at the back during the stage at times behind splits as well and made no effort to really push. Would be borne out if he goes super hard tomorrow.
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