Ciao a tutti - Giro 2022, May 6th - 29th: Pre Race Team Info, Chat and Gossip

blazing_saddles
blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
edited May 2022 in Pro race














Thought it time we kicked things off so anything of interest can be posted here for folks to mull over.

For now, the latest startlist from a few sources, so teams can be cross checked:

https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/giro-d-italia/2022/gc/startlist

http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_idd=MzA3Njk=
(Teams with a green tick have been confirmed)

https://firstcycling.com/race.php?r=13&y=2022&k=8

A lot of teams have released their teams via twitter. One or two are quite inventive.



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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    edited May 2022
    Really looking forward to this, looks a cracking hard route and a fairly open field in all departments.
  • JimD666
    JimD666 Posts: 2,293
    My favourite of the GT's. Looking forward to this immensely :)

    At least with QS picking Cav it removes (pretty much) any doubt as to whether he'd of gone to that other 3 week race...
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Sooooo excited. Best GT there is in the best country in the world.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    And, needless to say, grazie mille to Blazing for starting this thread off!
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    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    MattFalle said:

    And, needless to say, grazie mille to Blazing for starting this thread off!

    In case you were going to ask, yes, it’s live for free on S4c.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Looking forward to this, and have already ordered my Cycling Podcast wine selection to enjoy during the race.

    Have to say that I'm surprised that Damiano Caruso isn't riding, thought he'd be returning after his ride last year.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    MvdP triumphant in Italia.

    it'll be too much!
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    kingstongraham said:

    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).


    tbh, as Vlasov is Russian I doubt he'll sctually be going anywhere

    #queldomage
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    MattFalle said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).


    tbh, as Vlasov is Russian I doubt he'll sctually be going anywhere

    #queldomage
    He won the Tour de Romandie at the weekend.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited May 2022
    kingstongraham said:

    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).

    The highest placed rider who competed in Romandie and is going to the Giro was Harold Tejada in 20th spot.

    In contrast, 10 of the top 11 in the Tour of the Alps will be starting.

    In terms of preparation for a GT
    Romandie is now ranked as the Swiss Tour of California.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    It's considered too close to the Giro. Anyone wanting to compete in the Giro seriously won't go to Romandie or at least won't compete for GC in Romandie.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pblakeney said:

    MattFalle said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).


    tbh, as Vlasov is Russian I doubt he'll sctually be going anywhere

    #queldomage
    He won the Tour de Romandie at the weekend.
    we refer to conversations from earlier today.

    it won't be anything to do with his form but his nationality.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    edited May 2022
    Fair do's, was more his 4th place last year and good form so far, combined with the much more stacked field in France that surprised me they've chosen to go with kelderman. Maybe he'll come good despite no form at all this year.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    QS all in for Cav should be fun!
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited May 2022
    m.r.m. said:

    It's considered too close to the Giro. Anyone wanting to compete in the Giro seriously won't go to Romandie or at least won't compete for GC in Romandie.

    Maybe now but it didn’t used to be. Dario Frigo won Romandie and was looking like winning the Giro, until there was a knock on his Sanremo hotel door.
    Also that year, Wladimir Belli was 3rd in Romandie and was 3rd in the Giro until he met Gibo Simoni’s cousin on Bondone.

    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,486
    MattFalle said:

    pblakeney said:

    MattFalle said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).


    tbh, as Vlasov is Russian I doubt he'll sctually be going anywhere

    #queldomage
    He won the Tour de Romandie at the weekend.
    we refer to conversations from earlier today.

    it won't be anything to do with his form but his nationality.
    Precisely. He was competing last week in spite of his nationality.
    What will change between now and July?

    Sorry for the diversion. Blame KG for mentioning Vlasov.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
    Veronese68 wrote:
    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    blazing_saddles said:

    m.r.m. said:

    It's considered too close to the Giro. Anyone wanting to compete in the Giro seriously won't go to Romandie or at least won't compete for GC in Romandie.

    Maybe now but it didn’t used to be. Dario Frigo won Romandie and was looking like winning the Giro, until there was a knock on his Sanremo hotel door.
    Also that year, Wladimir Belli was 3rd in Romandie and was 3rd in the Giro until he met Gibo Simoni’s cousin on Bondone.

    Million years ago
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    I'm not entirely sure that isn't an excuse anyway. It's like 5 days rest in between. Should be doable, especially since the parcours at Romandie was hardly super hard this year.
    PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 2023
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    pblakeney said:

    MattFalle said:

    pblakeney said:

    MattFalle said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Surprised Vlasov is going to France rather than Italy, as well as Caruso who looked on form in sicily (even if not riding for his team).


    tbh, as Vlasov is Russian I doubt he'll sctually be going anywhere

    #queldomage
    He won the Tour de Romandie at the weekend.
    we refer to conversations from earlier today.

    it won't be anything to do with his form but his nationality.
    Precisely. He was competing last week in spite of his nationality.
    What will change between now and July?

    Sorry for the diversion. Blame KG for mentioning Vlasov.
    Sorry about that. Mf can come argue the point in the small races thread when tour de Suisse starts.

  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    On topic, I like the look of the eolo kometa lineup for a couple of surprises.
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    edited May 2022
    Looks like Yates, Almeida and Carapaz are the favourites, with Bardet and Bilbao just below them. As is so often with the Giro though, you'd imagine mishaps will befall some of the favourites, especially if the weather is a bit grotty.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Have a bit of Nibali

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2022/may/03/cycling-vincenzo-nibali-giro-ditalia
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • thejimmymethod
    thejimmymethod Posts: 458
    phreak said:

    Looks like Yates, Almeida and Carapaz are the favourites, with Bardet and Bilbao just below them. As is so often with the Giro though, you'd imagine mishaps will befall some of the favourites, especially if the weather is a bit grotty.

    Bahrain are taking Landa to attract the bad luck away from Bilbao
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    thejimmymethod said:

    phreak said:

    Looks like Yates, Almeida and Carapaz are the favourites, with Bardet and Bilbao just below them. As is so often with the Giro though, you'd imagine mishaps will befall some of the favourites, especially if the weather is a bit grotty.

    Bahrain are taking Landa to attract the bad luck away from Bilbao
    I wonder what odds you can get for Sivakov and Porte crashing out in the first week?
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    The pessimism here is strong.

    Even Geraint Thomas managed to ride a perfect GY and look what happened.
    One of them might get lucky.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    No pessimism here - if you ignore the "masters class" riders over 35, there's 10 riders in the field who have finished on the podium in at least one GT.

    That combined with no massive favourite surely makes for some good racing.
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 599
    Hopefully that will be the case.
    The team announcements are becoming a bit surreal (Trek). Like the Lotto one though
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,823
    Listening to the Cycling Podcast preview, I hope Mikel Landa has a good race
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Talking of Landa.

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