Top 5 for 2021
I’ll start
1. Wout van Aert
2. Mathieu van der Poel
3. Egan Bernal
4. Julian Alaphilippe
5. Kasper Asgreen
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Van Aert
Van Der poel
Pogacer
Roglic
Alaphilippe
That was easy.
The more interesting thing will be to see if anyone can join the club."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
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Julian Alaphilippe
Wout van Aert
Tom Pidcock
Mathieu van der Poel
Anna van der Breggen
I'll add a honourable mention to Geraint Thomas. If only as to wonder what will cause him to crash this time...0 -
Van Aert
Alaphilippe
Mvdp
Pog
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Probably should have found space for Cavendish0
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(And Ganna and Charlotte Worthington.)kingstongraham said:Probably should have found space for Cavendish
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this and, tbh, it'll probably be the same when this question is asked at this time next year.gsk82 said:Van Aert
Van Der poel
Pogacer
Roglic
Alaphilippe
That was easy.
The more interesting thing will be to see if anyone can join the club..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....0
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Same can for Cavendish tbh.
ride in pack
ride in pack
ride in pack
struggle in grupetto
ride really fast for 300m.The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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van der Poel
Pogacar
Cavendish
Pidcock
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Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
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I took 5 to watch as meaning who's going to be the 5 most successful.rick_chasey said:Yes, would be interested to hear the workings for how anyone can enjoy watching Roglic.
I can't watch a race with Roglic in. His mere presence is a spoiler."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
Ah my mistake I will correctgsk82 said:
I took 5 to watch as meaning who's going to be the 5 most successful.rick_chasey said:Yes, would be interested to hear the workings for how anyone can enjoy watching Roglic.
I can't watch a race with Roglic in. His mere presence is a spoiler.0 -
I don't really like watching people crash, so even that wasn't fun.TheBigBean said:
Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
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Did we see him crash? I just remember him trying really hard to get back on.kingstongraham said:
I don't really like watching people crash, so even that wasn't fun.TheBigBean said:
Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
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I don't remember tbh.TheBigBean said:
Did we see him crash? I just remember him trying really hard to get back on.kingstongraham said:
I don't really like watching people crash, so even that wasn't fun.TheBigBean said:
Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
That whole race was nowhere near as much fun as Tirreno Adriatico. Not even in the same league.0 -
rick_chasey said:
Yes, would be interested to hear the workings for how anyone can enjoy watching Roglic.
I think they have convinced themselves that he is exciting based on two false narratives from the media.
1. That the Sky model is dead and the new generation aren't tied to their trains and power meters. There's not really much evidence for this and Roglic's successes have come from taking the Sky model and removing the attacking. (Basically the Wiggins version of the Sky model)
2. Because they are from the same country and the first three letters of the names rhyme, Roglic and Pogacar are basically the same rider.Twitter: @RichN950 -
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not very enjoyable to watch him race though. his side story was either "meh, who cares" or "ooooh, ooooh, ooooh Cav must jeff myself" dependant on his viewpoint of him.RichN95. said:MattFalle said:Same can for Cavendish tbh.
ride in pack
ride in pack
ride in pack
struggle in grupetto
ride really fast for 300m
Cavendish was more about the journey back from the abyss than the races themselves though.
So doesn't really fit top 5 billing..The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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I'm glad you said it's Wiggins version of sky as I almost wrote a post explaining he's the most boring GC winner since Wiggins, but then I thought people would jump on me as off the bike Wiggins IS quite interesting, which of course, Roglic is not.RichN95. said:rick_chasey said:Yes, would be interested to hear the workings for how anyone can enjoy watching Roglic.
I think they have convinced themselves that he is exciting based on two false narratives from the media.
1. That the Sky model is dead and the new generation aren't tied to their trains and power meters. There's not really much evidence for this and Roglic's successes have come from taking the Sky model and removing the attacking. (Basically the Wiggins version of the Sky model)
2. Because they are from the same country and the first three letters of the names rhyme, Roglic and Pogacar are basically the same rider.0 -
No one is as dull as Froome on and off the bike though, so you've got to him an award for that..
The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
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Well, yes, but two of the people lighting up that race are in my top 5, and if we had to restrict it to a top 2, it would be just those two.kingstongraham said:
I don't remember tbh.TheBigBean said:
Did we see him crash? I just remember him trying really hard to get back on.kingstongraham said:
I don't really like watching people crash, so even that wasn't fun.TheBigBean said:
Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
That whole race was nowhere near as much fun as Tirreno Adriatico. Not even in the same league.0 -
So your highlight of watching Roglic was when he lost?TheBigBean said:
Well, yes, but two of the people lighting up that race are in my top 5, and if we had to restrict it to a top 2, it would be just those two.kingstongraham said:
I don't remember tbh.TheBigBean said:
Did we see him crash? I just remember him trying really hard to get back on.kingstongraham said:
I don't really like watching people crash, so even that wasn't fun.TheBigBean said:
Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
That whole race was nowhere near as much fun as Tirreno Adriatico. Not even in the same league.
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It's a bit like watching Valverde. Year round racer who has won LBL, competed in Lombardy at the other end of the season, won the Vuelta and won the Olympic TT, whilst still knocking out decent performances at the tour and other stages races throughout the year. He didn't do all that in 2021, but I thought he showed a lot more than just a sprint finish in several races in 2021.rick_chasey said:Yes, would be interested to hear the workings for how anyone can enjoy watching Roglic.
Also, he's this forum's pantomime villain, so he gets bonus points for that.0 -
It's hard to tell what they are like personally as there's usually a language barrier and everything is filtered via the media. And the English language media have just dubbed him a ski-jumper and decided that that's enough 'colour'. Similarly Sagan never really says much and is viewed as a great character but according to Slovakian journalists he's quite dull.rick_chasey said:
I'm glad you said it's Wiggins version of sky as I almost wrote a post explaining he's the most boring GC winner since Wiggins, but then I thought people would jump on me as off the bike Wiggins IS quite interesting, which of course, Roglic is not.Twitter: @RichN950 -
Sport includes losing as well. It's very dull if the same person wins all the time. One of things I admired about Contador was that he turned up to win every race he entered. He didn't just shrug and say it's only Paris-Nice, he did everything he could to win and and ended up losing by a few seconds on two occasions. Roglic came out of his comfort zone that day.kingstongraham said:
So your highlight of watching Roglic was when he lost?TheBigBean said:
Well, yes, but two of the people lighting up that race are in my top 5, and if we had to restrict it to a top 2, it would be just those two.kingstongraham said:
I don't remember tbh.TheBigBean said:
Did we see him crash? I just remember him trying really hard to get back on.kingstongraham said:
I don't really like watching people crash, so even that wasn't fun.TheBigBean said:
Do you remember him losing Paris-Nice?kingstongraham said:I'll be honest, I can't remember vividly a single Roglic win this year. That Taco day though....
That whole race was nowhere near as much fun as Tirreno Adriatico. Not even in the same league.
It was a good day, tbf
Similarly, Froome and the Vuelta. He made it a great race on many occasions.0