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If you've ever had to deal with sport officialdom then you'll know that anything gnarly is very much frowned upon.dabber said:
Or just have a look at some of Nino Schurter's fun videos when he is playing. These riders are amazing. Just good local riders tackle a lot gnarlier. This is the Olympics.focuszing723 said:Can't someone send him a link to a couple of Danny Macaskill youtube videos?
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Asgreen is an ex horse dancer. It's a little more egalitarian over here, but still not cheap.
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Looks like the bulk of the men's TT interest tomorrow will be *07:52 onwards.
27 Tobias Foss (Nor) 15:52:00
28 Patrick Bevin (NZl) 15:53:30
29 Brandon McNulty (USA)15:55:00
30 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) 15:56:30
31 Joao Almeida (Por) 15:58:00
32 Kasper Asgreen (Den) 15:59:30 (Reformed horse dancer)
33 Primoz Roglic (Slo) 16:01:00
34 Geraint Thomas (GBr) 16:02:30
35 Rohan Dennis (Aus) 16:04:00
36 Remi Cavagna (Fra) 16:05:30
37 Stefan Kung (Swi) 16:07:00
38 Wout van Aert (Bel) 16:08:30
39 Filippo Ganna (Ita) 16:10:00
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Really?No_Ta_Doctor said:Asgreen is an ex horse dancer. It's a little more egalitarian over here, but still not cheap.
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Yep.above_the_cows said:
Really?No_Ta_Doctor said:Asgreen is an ex horse dancer. It's a little more egalitarian over here, but still not cheap.
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Posh folk need their own representation now that all the plebs have started doing sport professionally rather than as a gentlemanly hobby, no?
That's why all this giving it all and being upset rather than a "good sport" is all a bit gauche. If you care too much, it's not really a hobby anymore is it? F*ck being a good sport. Fair is plenty enough.
That's all the horses are there for. That and modern pentathlon "how can we make sure there's a sport that only posh people can do?"0 -
15 years ago on my Kona Stab (awesome bikeddraver said:
Have a look at Annika Langvad (sp?)...dabber said:
I find that hard to believe. There never seemed anything exceptional about that drop and the landing area was nicely angled.ddraver said:I There are recent world champions that wouldn't have dealt with the drop with no ramp.
Evie has been open about needing to work specifically on it before these games. As I said elsewhere it's a biiig step up in terms of risk from what has been on most World Cup Courses and didnt appear to have a chicken run. (Or at least not one that was even a little bit competitive)
As always a reminder that they re hitting these features with Heart Rates through the sky, breathing out their...and tunnel vision too. Not with the boys in the skills zone at the end of a lap of 'degla..
) I would have hit it no problem. On the rigid carbon on-one I got last week, my first MTB in 11 or 12 years, definitely not.
It's supposed to be mountain biking though not a glorified CX course, it should have proper MTB features in it.
It was angled to give a good landing (provided you cleared the flat part and didn't case it). It needed something - if it had been mud, and wet like today, the landing would have been wrecked really quickly.tailwindhome said:I don't know anything about xc racing - but it seems harsh to have that drop with the landing area being a rock.
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No no, I'm with you! I've started watching more XCO as it's got more technical. 5-10 years ago it looked like the blue loop at a trail centre and just felt lacking (despite the obvious fitness needed for it). It's much better now.
I'm just commenting on the big and sudden step up, apparently without a way round...We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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Looks like the bulk of the men's TT interest tomorrow will be *07:52 onwards.
27 Tobias Foss (Nor) 15:52:00
28 Patrick Bevin (NZl) 15:53:30
29 Brandon McNulty (USA)15:55:00
30 Tom Dumoulin (Ned) 15:56:30
31 Joao Almeida (Por) 15:58:00
32 Kasper Asgreen (Den) 15:59:30 (Reformed horse dancer)
33 Primoz Roglic (Slo) 16:01:00
34 Geraint Thomas (GBr) 16:02:30
35 Rohan Dennis (Aus) 16:04:00
36 Remi Cavagna (Fra) 16:05:30
37 Stefan Kung (Swi) 16:07:00
38 Wout van Aert (Bel) 16:08:30
39 Filippo Ganna (Ita) 16:10:00
*I think I have that time difference correct.......
Interesting weather forecast. Rain more likely for the later starters maybe. Or perhaps for the first starters in Wave 2. Wave 1 are mostly also rans.
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Now there's an Olympic discipline that only needs a minor update to become relevant again. It's supposed to be a test of an army officer's skills, and to be honest there's nothing wrong with it that the ability to call in air strikes wouldn't improve immediately.rick_chasey said:That and modern pentathlon "how can we make sure there's a sport that only posh people can do?"
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Never understand sports fans bashing other sports. Eventing is fine, a good day out and can even be entertaining. Sure I would skip the dressage, but I don't find TTs riveting either.3
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Big difference between mountain biking and skiing for me was the certainty of pain when crashing on a mountain bike. It was never nice. Not sure how difference a rock makes to the equation.tailwindhome said:I don't know anything about xc racing - but it seems harsh to have that drop with the landing area being a rock.
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I'm just overlaying my own class prejudice onto sports chat - not really anything to do with the sport.TheBigBean said:Never understand sports fans bashing other sports. Eventing is fine, a good day out and can even be entertaining. Sure I would skip the dressage, but I don't find TTs riveting either.
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It's definitely better for the more technical courses - you have to be technically skilled, and not just have the engine, otherwise it's just a gravel racing event. And as we've seen the last two days, skilled riders handled the course with aplomb to win.ddraver said:No no, I'm with you! I've started watching more XCO as it's got more technical. 5-10 years ago it looked like the blue loop at a trail centre and just felt lacking (despite the obvious fitness needed for it). It's much better now.
I'm just commenting on the big and sudden step up, apparently without a way round...All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
How do you feel about golf, tennis, lacrosse and hockey?rick_chasey said:
I'm just overlaying my own class prejudice onto sports chat - not really anything to do with the sport.TheBigBean said:Never understand sports fans bashing other sports. Eventing is fine, a good day out and can even be entertaining. Sure I would skip the dressage, but I don't find TTs riveting either.
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Agree - I've always fancied going to one of the big 3 day events; skilled horsemanship is a sight to see. I think Burleigh, or Badminton used to be the biggest sporting spectator event in the UK.TheBigBean said:Never understand sports fans bashing other sports. Eventing is fine, a good day out and can even be entertaining. Sure I would skip the dressage, but I don't find TTs riveting either.
All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0 -
My friend was county tennis champion for multiple consecutive years and he came from a low income household in a council estate. Not going to comment on the others.TheBigBean said:
How do you feel about golf, tennis, lacrosse and hockey?rick_chasey said:
I'm just overlaying my own class prejudice onto sports chat - not really anything to do with the sport.TheBigBean said:Never understand sports fans bashing other sports. Eventing is fine, a good day out and can even be entertaining. Sure I would skip the dressage, but I don't find TTs riveting either.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Bit of beef between Neff and PFP
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/jolanda-neff-criticises-rivals-riding-after-tokyo-2020-olympic-mountain-bike-incident1 -
Thread hi-jack.bobmcstuff said:
15 years ago on my Kona Stab (awesome bikeddraver said:
Have a look at Annika Langvad (sp?)...dabber said:
I find that hard to believe. There never seemed anything exceptional about that drop and the landing area was nicely angled.ddraver said:I There are recent world champions that wouldn't have dealt with the drop with no ramp.
Evie has been open about needing to work specifically on it before these games. As I said elsewhere it's a biiig step up in terms of risk from what has been on most World Cup Courses and didnt appear to have a chicken run. (Or at least not one that was even a little bit competitive)
As always a reminder that they re hitting these features with Heart Rates through the sky, breathing out their...and tunnel vision too. Not with the boys in the skills zone at the end of a lap of 'degla.. ) I would have hit it no problem. On the rigid carbon on-one I got last week, my first MTB in 11 or 12 years, definitely not.
It's supposed to be mountain biking though not a glorified CX course, it should have proper MTB features in it.
It was angled to give a good landing (provided you cleared the flat part and didn't case it). It needed something - if it had been mud, and wet like today, the landing would have been wrecked really quickly.tailwindhome said:I don't know anything about xc racing - but it seems harsh to have that drop with the landing area being a rock.
On one Whippet? What do you think of it? I've got a rigid Genesis Tarn but it's a heavy steel beast with semi-fat tyres.
I'm not a MTBer and mainly just use it for non - technical stuff and mixed road/trail rides - thinking something a lot lighter with less tyre width might be more fun.
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Should we have a sweep on how far Thomas gets before sliding off on a carelessly discarded piece of sushi?1
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Yeah it's greatDeVlaeminck said:
Thread hi-jack.bobmcstuff said:
15 years ago on my Kona Stab (awesome bikeddraver said:
Have a look at Annika Langvad (sp?)...dabber said:
I find that hard to believe. There never seemed anything exceptional about that drop and the landing area was nicely angled.ddraver said:I There are recent world champions that wouldn't have dealt with the drop with no ramp.
Evie has been open about needing to work specifically on it before these games. As I said elsewhere it's a biiig step up in terms of risk from what has been on most World Cup Courses and didnt appear to have a chicken run. (Or at least not one that was even a little bit competitive)
As always a reminder that they re hitting these features with Heart Rates through the sky, breathing out their...and tunnel vision too. Not with the boys in the skills zone at the end of a lap of 'degla.. ) I would have hit it no problem. On the rigid carbon on-one I got last week, my first MTB in 11 or 12 years, definitely not.
It's supposed to be mountain biking though not a glorified CX course, it should have proper MTB features in it.
It was angled to give a good landing (provided you cleared the flat part and didn't case it). It needed something - if it had been mud, and wet like today, the landing would have been wrecked really quickly.tailwindhome said:I don't know anything about xc racing - but it seems harsh to have that drop with the landing area being a rock.
On one Whippet? What do you think of it? I've got a rigid Genesis Tarn but it's a heavy steel beast with semi-fat tyres.
I'm not a MTBer and mainly just use it for non - technical stuff and mixed road/trail rides - thinking something a lot lighter with less tyre width might be more fun.
That was one of the main reasons for getting it, I figured it would be good for local gravel-ish stuff as well as actual MTB.
I've done about a 150k on it since I got it (was actually 2 weeks ago) - 2 gravel type rides (canal towpaths and disused railways type thing), a lap of the Marin Trail in Snowdonia, and a 30-odd mile Dark Peak loop I got off MBR. It seems very capable - was a bit rough down the rocky bridleways in the Peaks but I managed. Reminded me of when I fist started riding, when I'd take my rubbish Dawes down all the local bridleways. On the towpaths and stuff it's surprisingly fun, it feels like it really wants you to press on. Stuck tubeless on it which makes a big difference for rocks (as you can run low pressures).
To be honest I mainly got it since it was on cyclescheme and is actually available to buy, unlike everything else!
It will take a 100mm fork, which I'll do if they ever come back in stock at a sensible price. I also want a dropper post and probably some lighter wheels, the stock ones are pretty heavy - I'm looking at doing some endurance racing on it. Ideally I would want 2 sets of wheels, one with gravel tyres and one with XC tyres.
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Completely disagree. Did you actually watch the race? It shook out "less hard" than the figures would make it seem. As evidenced by a reduced bunch sprint for silver that WVA won. There was an opportunity for MvdP (or WVA for that matter, but he had already been forced to close gaps by then) to bridge over to Carapaz when Carapaz bridged over to the American rider McNulty (I think).yorkshireraw said:
MVDP was never going to win the Olympic RR on that course (it was the race with the most vertical ascent so far in 2021 - hence why Carapaz won his first 1 day).
VDP had a very good chance (up until his ramp faux pas) of becoming OG Gold medallist in the XC MB. That would be a big deal in Netherlands and with his sponsors.
Also, he had planned for this OG to be in 2020, when he wouldn't have been doing the tour. COVID did for that.
I would imagine he will go full on Road now with a bit of CX.
Obviously there is no guarantee he would have still been there or had the legs that moment, but it's certainly not impossible.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
Who was in that group? Van Aert, Pogacar, Mollema, Woods, McNulty, Gaudu, Uran and Yates. Impressive from McNulty to still be there, but I've not seen anything from MvdP that says he's climbing the last hill with that lot. He clearly agrees.m.r.m. said:
Completely disagree. Did you actually watch the race? It shook out "less hard" than the figures would make it seem. As evidenced by a reduced bunch sprint for silver that WVA won. There was an opportunity for MvdP (or WVA for that matter, but he had already been forced to close gaps by then) to bridge over to Carapaz when Carapaz bridged over to the American rider McNulty (I think).yorkshireraw said:
MVDP was never going to win the Olympic RR on that course (it was the race with the most vertical ascent so far in 2021 - hence why Carapaz won his first 1 day).
VDP had a very good chance (up until his ramp faux pas) of becoming OG Gold medallist in the XC MB. That would be a big deal in Netherlands and with his sponsors.
Also, he had planned for this OG to be in 2020, when he wouldn't have been doing the tour. COVID did for that.
I would imagine he will go full on Road now with a bit of CX.
Obviously there is no guarantee he would have still been there or had the legs that moment, but it's certainly not impossible.1 -
Looks for the first time in my life, my speculations are actually correctdaniel_b said:
That was Yolanda Neff - the eventual, and by a good distance, winner.JimD666 said:
One of the ladies nearly took a header when she got caught in two minds as to whether to take the ramp or miss it, but she seemed to be able to keep it upright.flite said:Going back to MTB: Does anyone know if any other riders, men or women, ramp or no ramp, fell at the big drop-off?
I think at the time she had PFP right in front of her, so might be that PFP slowed a touch more than was expecting (Perhaps because she was using the ramp) and YN had nowhere to go - speculating.
https://cyclingweekly.com/news/jolanda-neff-criticises-rivals-riding-after-tokyo-2020-olympic-mountain-bike-incident
Seems a bit harsh to me, first time over it I think from what the article says, so maybe the person behind needs to be mindful of the person in front of them, and not tailgate them, especially as the ramp was there - had it not been there, then agreed everyone would need to be travelling at speed to clear the initial drop.
But as it was there, it's a viable tactic to slow to descend using the provided ramp should you wish to do so.
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I know at least 10 people who regularly compete in dressage. I think I'd rather my kids grow up with the discipline of looking after a horse than hanging around the local skatepark drinking and smoking weed.yorkshireraw said:
Is it horsey dancing? One of those things where you wonder how many people world-wide actually do this? If they're introducing skateboarding to encourage more accessible participation, they need to do the opposite and get rid of equestrian (I know they won't.....)ddraver said:Also...people were complaining about skateboarding and surfing - would ya look at the fuckin' horse nonsense on now? 🤔🤨🤔
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It's because they don't understand it and have never tried it.TheBigBean said:Never understand sports fans bashing other sports. Eventing is fine, a good day out and can even be entertaining. Sure I would skip the dressage, but I don't find TTs riveting either.
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