tuesday only the dead have seen the end of war

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  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    edited July 2021
    MattFalle said:



    potential new shifters but I don't think they will work with the 'mech

    Mish mash the two together? Levers from the carbons to the non Carbons - providing they fit (probably wont)

    Also, bidding for a new set of shifty shifters myself
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    step83 said:

    MattFalle said:



    potential new shifters but I don't think they will work with the 'mech

    Mish mash the two together? Levers from the carbons to the non Carbons - providing they fit (probably wont)
    oh God, can you imagine the hash up the MF's would make of that?

    Good idea but no grazie.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,501
    thistle_ said:

    tlw1 said:

    pinno said:

    > Search for Bosch 0261210003
    > Come up with multiple prices, multiple cheap non OEM
    > Research cheap OEM
    Forget cheap non OEM
    > Find one £41 cheaper!
    > Add to basket

    + Add delivery
    + [Checkout process adds 'safe order'] ?!
    > Total: over £100 !

    Pay for the one that was £41 more expensive because they weren't lying to me.

    Crank sensor?
    These works quite well: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magene-Cadence-Cycling-Bluetooth-Wireless/dp/B087PDPNMF
    For a Porker 944?

    @tlw1 Yep.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,501
    MattFalle said:

    pinno said:

    Dirk pics please.
    Will it go into the Frankenbike thread or will it be legendary?

    Just drying off cassette and chain aftercleaning, so will refit and take piccies as the sun is shining.

    Do you know if all 9 speed Campag shifters work with all 9 speed mechs?
    No they don't - different parallelogram. Use a 'shift mate' for Shimano compatibility.

    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • homers_double
    homers_double Posts: 8,331
    @sungod thank you for that info, I'll investigate tonight and see if it's worth the risk.
    Advocate of disc brakes.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,501
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:



    potential new shifters but I don't think they will work with the 'mech

    shifters
    The 9's and 10's just worked so well. Prefer my 10 shifting to the 11.
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    MattFalle said:

    step83 said:

    MattFalle said:



    potential new shifters but I don't think they will work with the 'mech

    Mish mash the two together? Levers from the carbons to the non Carbons - providing they fit (probably wont)
    oh God, can you imagine the hash up the MF's would make of that?

    Good idea but no grazie.
    I would pay to observe this.

    Update, bid on new shifters looking hopeful, OH has also approved wonder what else can oops into the basket
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pinno said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:



    potential new shifters but I don't think they will work with the 'mech

    shifters
    The 9's and 10's just worked so well. Prefer my 10 shifting to the 11.
    So keep current ti 9s, yah?

    saves buying new cables as well.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    step83 said:

    MattFalle said:

    step83 said:

    MattFalle said:



    potential new shifters but I don't think they will work with the 'mech

    Mish mash the two together? Levers from the carbons to the non Carbons - providing they fit (probably wont)
    oh God, can you imagine the hash up the MF's would make of that?

    Good idea but no grazie.
    I would pay to observe this.

    Update, bid on new shifters looking hopeful, OH has also approved wonder what else can oops into the basket
    i'd ooops some Obermayers in if I were you.

    she'll never notice.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    Was thinking more a new groupset for the gravel bike, not enjoying the Shimano experience
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    MattFalle said:

    Ciao

    should be above dude


    They've appeared now. Mad bike, I love it.
    Ben

    Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    step83 said:

    Was thinking more a new groupset for the gravel bike, not enjoying the Shimano experience

    oh - then get that new Campag one. Meant to be utterly awesome.

    Shimano is shyteanyway.

    Take it off, sell it to a clubbie, fit Campag, woo women.

    Job jobbed.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • pinno
    pinno Posts: 52,501
    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    pinno said:

    Dirk pics please.
    Will it go into the Frankenbike thread or will it be legendary?

    Just drying off cassette and chain aftercleaning, so will refit and take piccies as the sun is shining.

    Do you know if all 9 speed Campag shifters work with all 9 speed mechs? Seems a shame to have carbon seat, carbon seat post, carbon forks, carbon bars, carbon wheels and not carbon shifters....

    If I decide I don't like the look of the '90/Zero combo I've a plain WCS carbon post and plain 80g carbon seat that can go on......
    I think shifters are either powershift or ergo shift and they're not compatible with each other as they have different pull ratios.

    I could be talking complete testicles though.
    ...and Ultra.

    I think you are wrong but i'm open to contradiction.
    It would mean producing 3 different rear mechs having 3 different parallelograms.
    ...and the spacing between all 9 speed Campag cassettes is identical.
    i'e 9 speed - 4.55 mm, 10 & 11 variable.

    https://www.sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.html
    seanoconn - gruagach craic!
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Ben6899 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Ciao

    should be above dude


    They've appeared now. Mad bike, I love it.

    But how do you stop without discs? And how do you manage to make any headway through the wind without it being shaped like every other "aero" bike?
    Ben

    Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
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  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    MattFalle said:

    step83 said:

    Was thinking more a new groupset for the gravel bike, not enjoying the Shimano experience

    oh - then get that new Campag one. Meant to be utterly awesome.

    Shimano is shyteanyway.

    Take it off, sell it to a clubbie, fit Campag, woo women.

    Job jobbed.
    think current woman would murderise me an get a new patio with a lump in it if I attempted wooing.

    I just had a look at Ekar, its not as bad as I thought for the whole setup. I can feel the tears from my wallet though.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Ben6899 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Ciao

    should be above dude


    They've appeared now. Mad bike, I love it.
    grazie mille! i think its coming together quite nicely.

    i've got a new headset on the way down to match the new forks and stem, then just set up the mechs again after i changed them to go on the turbo and lets see what its like.

    i'll weigh it in a bit as well and update.

    Thinking N1, S3, Prince and a yellow CAAD with Spinergys and all should be groovy.

    CAAD may have to have Shytegra though, which is sad, but I do have a mint Dura Ace 9 speed groupset in the loft.....
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Ben6899 said:

    Ben6899 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Ciao

    should be above dude


    They've appeared now. Mad bike, I love it.

    But how do you stop without discs? And how do you manage to make any headway through the wind without it being shaped like every other "aero" bike?
    brakes are for cowards. Tbh, its another reason to keep those shifters so they work with those older Campag brakes.

    and i use my MIGHTY LEGS OF POWER to crush both the elements and clubbies in my way.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    pinno said:

    MattFalle said:

    pinno said:

    Dirk pics please.
    Will it go into the Frankenbike thread or will it be legendary?

    Just drying off cassette and chain aftercleaning, so will refit and take piccies as the sun is shining.

    Do you know if all 9 speed Campag shifters work with all 9 speed mechs?
    No they don't - different parallelogram. Use a 'shift mate' for Shimano compatibility.

    What compatability? Why would I want thatshite on Dirk?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    step83 said:

    MattFalle said:

    step83 said:

    Was thinking more a new groupset for the gravel bike, not enjoying the Shimano experience

    oh - then get that new Campag one. Meant to be utterly awesome.

    Shimano is shyteanyway.

    Take it off, sell it to a clubbie, fit Campag, woo women.

    Job jobbed.
    think current woman would murderise me an get a new patio with a lump in it if I attempted wooing.

    I just had a look at Ekar, its not as bad as I thought for the whole setup. I can feel the tears from my wallet though.
    Best buy the Ekar then. Anything else is rubbish.

    buy it. buy it. buy it. buy it. buy it now.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,808
    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:



    as is now, chain and cassette still drying.

    new black 'tape to go on.

    Dirk
    Looks like a cut 'n' shut job to me - front and rear end of the frame are completely different colours.
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Stevo_666 said:

    MattFalle said:

    MattFalle said:



    as is now, chain and cassette still drying.

    new black 'tape to go on.

    Dirk
    Looks like a cut 'n' shut job to me - front and rear end of the frame are completely different colours.
    good point well presented - grazie.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • step83
    step83 Posts: 4,170
    MattFalle said:

    step83 said:

    MattFalle said:

    step83 said:

    Was thinking more a new groupset for the gravel bike, not enjoying the Shimano experience

    oh - then get that new Campag one. Meant to be utterly awesome.

    Shimano is shyteanyway.

    Take it off, sell it to a clubbie, fit Campag, woo women.

    Job jobbed.
    think current woman would murderise me an get a new patio with a lump in it if I attempted wooing.

    I just had a look at Ekar, its not as bad as I thought for the whole setup. I can feel the tears from my wallet though.
    Best buy the Ekar then. Anything else is rubbish.

    buy it. buy it. buy it. buy it. buy it now.
    Haha doubt I will someones offering me a Rival one groupset! I need new bartape as well not only becasue the shifter change but the current orange an black one the top layers coming off from the foam backing which makes it a bit interesting in places.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    pinno said:

    elbowloh said:

    MattFalle said:

    pinno said:

    Dirk pics please.
    Will it go into the Frankenbike thread or will it be legendary?

    Just drying off cassette and chain aftercleaning, so will refit and take piccies as the sun is shining.

    Do you know if all 9 speed Campag shifters work with all 9 speed mechs? Seems a shame to have carbon seat, carbon seat post, carbon forks, carbon bars, carbon wheels and not carbon shifters....

    If I decide I don't like the look of the '90/Zero combo I've a plain WCS carbon post and plain 80g carbon seat that can go on......
    I think shifters are either powershift or ergo shift and they're not compatible with each other as they have different pull ratios.

    I could be talking complete testicles though.
    ...and Ultra.

    I think you are wrong but i'm open to contradiction.
    It would mean producing 3 different rear mechs having 3 different parallelograms.
    ...and the spacing between all 9 speed Campag cassettes is identical.
    i'e 9 speed - 4.55 mm, 10 & 11 variable.

    https://www.sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-spacing.html
    This is Campag's own documentation for the current 11 speed groupsets and it implies you should only use ErgoPower Shifter with Record, SR and Chorus. I'm guessing it was similar issues with 9 speed?

    https://www.campagnolo.com/media/files/035_260_Technical manual - Mechanical units rear derailleur - Campagnolo_Rev03_07_17.pdf
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    MattFalle said:

    Ben6899 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Ciao

    should be above dude


    They've appeared now. Mad bike, I love it.
    grazie mille! i think its coming together quite nicely.

    i've got a new headset on the way down to match the new forks and stem, then just set up the mechs again after i changed them to go on the turbo and lets see what its like.

    i'll weigh it in a bit as well and update.

    Thinking N1, S3, Prince and a yellow CAAD with Spinergys and all should be groovy.

    CAAD may have to have Shytegra though, which is sad, but I do have a mint Dura Ace 9 speed groupset in the loft.....

    What year? And which paint job.

    (answers, btw, are: 2008. Prince of Spain)
    Ben

    Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ben_h_ppcc/
    Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/143173475@N05/
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Ben6899 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Ben6899 said:

    MattFalle said:

    Ciao

    should be above dude


    They've appeared now. Mad bike, I love it.
    grazie mille! i think its coming together quite nicely.

    i've got a new headset on the way down to match the new forks and stem, then just set up the mechs again after i changed them to go on the turbo and lets see what its like.

    i'll weigh it in a bit as well and update.

    Thinking N1, S3, Prince and a yellow CAAD with Spinergys and all should be groovy.

    CAAD may have to have Shytegra though, which is sad, but I do have a mint Dura Ace 9 speed groupset in the loft.....

    What year? And which paint job.

    (answers, btw, are: 2008. Prince of Spain)
    this one.


    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Oh, one you already own?
    Ben

    Bikes: Donhou DSS4 Custom | Condor Italia RC | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
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  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    edited July 2021
    Yes.

    Doesn't everyone,?
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    Just ridden Dirk through the staff quarters and its mega - well tiny. Like a monumentally stunning crit bike.

    Be mega mega when its got headset bearings in it.
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,866
    Evening folks,
    In a car park in Chichester, spent the day being blown around the south coast.
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,808

    Evening folks,
    In a car park in Chichester, spent the day being blown around the south coast.

    Not sure if that's good, bad, or dogging?
    "I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]