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  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 12,689
    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    Just googled them. Nice one big man. Full respect.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,702
    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866
    ddraver said:

    have we had Tom Hardwood meeting the consequences of his own actions yet..?

    That is hilarious
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.

    It's better to make lots of money and not try and do anything good, because then you aren't a hypocrite. If you are consistently selfish, that's self evidently morally superior.
  • MattFalle
    MattFalle Posts: 11,644
    ddraver said:

    have we had Tom Hardwood meeting the consequences of his own actions yet..?

    tbh, she's only saying what we all think - well, all of us apart from ILG who is probably thumbing himself right now




















    a petition to have her arrested and jailed for treason
    .
    The camera down the willy isn't anything like as bad as it sounds.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,553

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    You still see lots of trolls along the lines of "he's a multi-millionaire, it's easy to say this stuff why doesn't he help out?"

    In my area Aaron Ramsey (from memory) gave something like £50k that a homeless charity needed to keep a shelter open in the early stages of lockdown. There were probably more BTL comments along the lines of "it's only about a day's pay for him, he should be giving more".
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,324
    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    You still see lots of trolls along the lines of "he's a multi-millionaire, it's easy to say this stuff why doesn't he help out?"

    In my area Aaron Ramsey (from memory) gave something like £50k that a homeless charity needed to keep a shelter open in the early stages of lockdown. There were probably more BTL comments along the lines of "it's only about a day's pay for him, he should be giving more".
    I remember reading something about a donation Bezos/Amazon had made, large sum of money. The rock group Kiss had donated a similar amount without making a big song and dance about it. But Amazon spent more than the value they donated in advertising bragging about the donation. Also if calculated pro-rata as percentage of wealth the difference was staggering.
  • Jezyboy
    Jezyboy Posts: 2,917

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    It's one I don't quite get.

    Presumably most tory supporters don't actually beleive in free school meals.

    Certainly most of their MPs give the impression they don't agree with them.

    Yet despite the party having a sufficient support base to win a vast majority, and them having that vast majority, they get bullied twice into making high profile u turns.

    Then the part that I find odd, them acting completely out of line with their marketing material seems to have no negative impact on their polling!
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,866

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    Come on!!! It is obvious why they are going after him


    Pour discourageur les autres

  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 27,671

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    Come on!!! It is obvious why they are going after him


    Pour discourageur les autres

    They seem to be failing at that, too.
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    You still see lots of trolls along the lines of "he's a multi-millionaire, it's easy to say this stuff why doesn't he help out?"

    In my area Aaron Ramsey (from memory) gave something like £50k that a homeless charity needed to keep a shelter open in the early stages of lockdown. There were probably more BTL comments along the lines of "it's only about a day's pay for him, he should be giving more".

    This never makes sense. By the same logic, if I donate £100 to a food bank then I'm a selfish ar$ehole for not contributing anywhere near enough. Whereas the reality is that 99% of people would probably say "good on ya, Ben".
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 40,553
    Ben6899 said:

    Pross said:

    Ben6899 said:

    rjsterry said:

    Presumably in a fit of pique at GBN becoming a laughing stock, the Spectator is going to have a go at Marcus Rashford. Obviously not quick learners.


    His pre-emptive tweets yesterday, were a masterstroke.
    To be honest, I don't know why politicians and journos keep going after him (well, I do). He is doing lots for charity work and he's a top level footballer.

    It's a very easy position to defend. He's come from nothing, worked hard, used his talent to get to the very top and now earns a tonne as a result. Boy done good. Furthermore, he uses a lot of that money to help those who need it > more than the vast majority do who earn that much.

    Win win. I know everyone keeps making out he's some shrewd politician - all he's doing is sticking to the knitting of hard work, charitable efforts and not being dragged down to their level.

    He's a great example of why actually doing the good stuff and trying your best is a lot easier than trying to spin everything in your favour.

    This gov't, for example, would have to spend a lot less time lying if they did a good job in the first place.
    You still see lots of trolls along the lines of "he's a multi-millionaire, it's easy to say this stuff why doesn't he help out?"

    In my area Aaron Ramsey (from memory) gave something like £50k that a homeless charity needed to keep a shelter open in the early stages of lockdown. There were probably more BTL comments along the lines of "it's only about a day's pay for him, he should be giving more".

    This never makes sense. By the same logic, if I donate £100 to a food bank then I'm a selfish ar$ehole for not contributing anywhere near enough. Whereas the reality is that 99% of people would probably say "good on ya, Ben".
    Yep, and the people who make those comments probably do nothing.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    Arlene Foster joins GB News, and teams up with Nigel Farage to bemoan the consequences of Brexit.

  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 18,941
    Nigel Farage literally stood candidates down at the last General Election to ensure the NI Protocol got through Parliament.

    Extraordinary scenes
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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    edited August 2021
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391
    Not sure what that's got to do with GB News tbh...
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,702
    edited August 2021
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-56376172


    But it found Mr Embery was not dismissed for supporting Brexit itself.


    Basically they forced him out unfairly because he was a knob rather than because he was a brexiter.

    (Close cousins obviously 😉😉)

    I remember a while ago reading a book on populism and how they always like to frame themselves as victims.

    Quite a well worn populist tactic.

    Before it was victims of nasty conspiring communists and socialists, who were not patriotic enough.

    Now it’s woke remainer types who are traitors to their nation etc conspiring to keep the populists out of institutions.

  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,324


    I remember a while ago reading a book on populism and how they always like to frame themselves as victims.

    The type of person that likes to use the term snowflake being the snowflake, that always makes me laugh.
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    shortfall said:
    Yes, but i posted that not to talk about him being fired, but because he was already clearly pro-brexit and therefore on GB news because of that, he wasn't there to bring balance.
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  • shortfall
    shortfall Posts: 3,288
    edited August 2021
    State of some of these replies Jesus!
    I don't know what GB News editorial stance is in Brexit but Paul Embery is unashamedly left wing. I mentioned him in the first place because he welcomed the chance to speak on a supposedly right wing echo chamber about a range of subjects that affected his members and the wider trade union movement. Brexit isn't "right wing" or if it is somebody should have told ultra leftists like Tony Benn and Peter Shore amongst many other Labour Party grandees who were against our membership of the EU. I think if elobowh is honest he introduced Embery's sacking by the FBU to try and discredit him as reasonable person but the fact is that he was removed from office by a kangaroo court of the Stalinists who run that union. It had nothing to do with him being a "knob" (incredible that someone could make such a palpably false statement) or his credentials as a union official, and everything to do with him dissenting from their official line on Brexit.. I've just remembered why I stopped posting here. Back to the Caption Comp for me where at least there's some laughs to be had. Just
  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    edited August 2021
    shortfall said:

    State of some of these replies Jesus!
    I don't know what GB News editorial stance is in Brexit but Paul Embery is unashamedly left wing. I mentioned him in the first place because he welcomed the chance to speak on a supposedly right wing echo chamber about a range of subjects that affected his members and the wider trade union movement. Brexit isn't "right wing" or if it is somebody should have told ultra leftists like Tony Benn and Peter Shore amongst many other Labour Party grandees who were against our membership of the EU. I think if elobowh is honest he introduced Embery's sacking by the FBU to try and discredit him as reasonable person but the fact is that he was removed from office by a kangaroo court of the Stalinists who run that union. It had nothing to do with his credentials as a union official and everything to do with him not following the unions supposed policy on Brexit. I've just remembered why I stopped posting here. Back to the Caption Comp for me where at least there's some laughs to be had. Just

    No, not at all. I introduced it because he had a history of sharing a platform with Farage and sharing some common views with him i.e. Brexit and anti-immigration.

    Paul Embery's first mention on here was to show that as he was on there, that GB news was trying to achieve balance. I posted that follow-up to demonstrate that this was false.

    I'm not sure why you're so desperate for believe that GB news is anything other than a propaganda machine rather than a balanced media outlet.
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  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,391
    shortfall said:

    State of some of these replies Jesus!

    What is controversial about the replies?

    What were you expecting?

    Why do I suspect you didn't post it with intentions of a sensible discussion? 🤔
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,324
    shortfall said:

    Back to the Caption Comp for me where at least there's some laughs to be had. Just

    Some of us are laughing on this thread, although it's more laughing at rather than with. Stop being such a snowflake
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 26,254
    shortfall said:


    I don't know what GB News editorial stance is in Brexit

    Really?
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,702
    edited August 2021
    shortfall said:

    State of some of these replies Jesus!
    I don't know what GB News editorial stance is in Brexit but Paul Embery is unashamedly left wing. I mentioned him in the first place because he welcomed the chance to speak on a supposedly right wing echo chamber about a range of subjects that affected his members and the wider trade union movement. Brexit isn't "right wing" or if it is somebody should have told ultra leftists like Tony Benn and Peter Shore amongst many other Labour Party grandees who were against our membership of the EU. I think if elobowh is honest he introduced Embery's sacking by the FBU to try and discredit him as reasonable person but the fact is that he was removed from office by a kangaroo court of the Stalinists who run that union. It had nothing to do with him being a "knob" (incredible that someone could make such a palpably false statement) or his credentials as a union official, and everything to do with him dissenting from their official line on Brexit.. I've just remembered why I stopped posting here. Back to the Caption Comp for me where at least there's some laughs to be had. Just

    I don’t think you understand either what populism is nor the new left/right divide.

    It’s moved on from the 70s or 80s or whenever you were in your 20s

    I think this is why you are confused about the whole issue.
  • pangolin
    pangolin Posts: 6,314
    edited August 2021

    shortfall said:

    Back to the Caption Comp for me where at least there's some laughs to be had. Just

    Some of us are laughing on this thread, although it's more laughing at rather than with. Stop being such a snowflake
    The caption comp is a safe space full of incredibly witty variations on "lol, it's a cakestopper!!!".

    Anyway, how is GB news getting on? Has Andrew Neal returned from his sabbatical after a tough first week?
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  • pangolin said:

    shortfall said:

    Back to the Caption Comp for me where at least there's some laughs to be had. Just

    Some of us are laughing on this thread, although it's more laughing at rather than with. Stop being such a snowflake
    The caption comp is a safe space full of incredibly witty variations on "lol, it's a cakestopper!!!".

    Anyway, how is GB news getting on? Has Andrew Neal returned from his sabbatical after a tough first week?
    So long as he has been double vaccinated he will soon be able to get to work at GBNews from his home in France.
  • ilovegrace
    ilovegrace Posts: 677
    Hi all.
    Love you all
    ILG
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 72,702
    Not just Grace, then?
  • ilovegrace
    ilovegrace Posts: 677
    I have enough love ito go round. Including Grace. Mind you she wil have to up her game. Carried out one to one with her and let her know where I expect improvement