Cavendish for the Tour? Should people work for free?

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    I don't see JA as a genuine yellow jersey contender so as mentioned above he can just fend for himself and go for stages that suit him.
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Who do they have to support Alaphillippe when it goes uphill?

    At the moment, Cattaneo. I think the bigger question would be who is going to pull back the breakaway if they have the two best sprinters. At the moment, they have Declercq to do that, but despite being the best domestique in 2020*, he is going to need some help.

    *BR would have awarded this WvA.
    Errr... May I introduce you to Kasper Asgreen, a one man break destroyer and sprint train member?
    I assumed after winning flanders he would have more of a free role and not be expected to chase breaks all day.
  • No_Ta_Doctor
    No_Ta_Doctor Posts: 14,692
    TheBigBean said:

    No_Ta_Doctor said:

    TheBigBean said:

    kingstongraham said:

    Who do they have to support Alaphillippe when it goes uphill?

    At the moment, Cattaneo. I think the bigger question would be who is going to pull back the breakaway if they have the two best sprinters. At the moment, they have Declercq to do that, but despite being the best domestique in 2020*, he is going to need some help.

    *BR would have awarded this WvA.
    Errr... May I introduce you to Kasper Asgreen, a one man break destroyer and sprint train member?
    I assumed after winning flanders he would have more of a free role and not be expected to chase breaks all day.
    I'm not sure QS works like that. I'm sure he'll get chances on lumpy days, but when there's a sprint stage he'll work for the team
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,459
    May not see the Vuelta either

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  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108
    I can't see them taking Cav if they take Bennett - it's a shame but I'm not even sure Cav would want to go as a reserve.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Wouldn’t write off JA.

    People did the same during the Tour ahead of the worlds last year when he was blowing up big time in break after break.

    Instead he was using those breaks as training.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    rick_chasey said:

    Wouldn’t write off JA.

    People did the same during the Tour ahead of the worlds last year when he was blowing up big time in break after break.

    Instead he was using those breaks as training.

    It was watching the ventoux challenge that made me doubt his chances there.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Possibly. I've not seen him much.

    Unless it's wet he pretty much turns up for every big race with decent legs.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    rick_chasey said:

    Possibly. I've not seen him much.

    Unless it's wet he pretty much turns up for every big race with decent legs.

    He wasn't riding there, he was in tour de Suisse at the time. But no way can he stay with the real climbers. The way Lopez just flew away from some seemingly decent quality climbers was crazy. Someone will do that and put enough time in that he can't make it back on the descent.
  • N0bodyOfTheGoat
    N0bodyOfTheGoat Posts: 6,065
    Cav is in, pleased for him. \o/

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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    What are the commercial terms!!!!!

    (I don't actually care)
  • bobmcstuff
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    bobmcstuff said:

    Does that mean he's got a new contract/pay deal?
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  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,313
    hope he gets around the whole parcours and snaffles a stage (at least). if this is his last year then to go out with a stage win would be fantastic
  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,025
    amrushton said:

    hope he gets around the whole parcours and snaffles a stage (at least). if this is his last year then to go out with a stage win would be fantastic

    I doubt it will be his last year if he wins a stage.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    He is in a good place. I hope Bennets knee gets better thou . .... Cav is back . I think he will win a stage
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  • shirley_basso
    shirley_basso Posts: 6,195
    William Fothering noting no Remi Cavagna in DQS team - so no French Nationals Jersey
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,037
    Amazing news - though I thought just a few days ago they said SB was sorted and was in. That changed quickly....?
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  • dabber
    dabber Posts: 1,982
    edited June 2021
    Looks like the Bennett/Lefevere relationship has soured.

    https://cyclingweekly.com/news/sam-bennett-and-patrick-lefevere-respond-to-irishmans-absence-from-tour-de-france-line-up
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  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 12,037
    dabber said:

    Looks like the Bennett/Lefevere relationship has soured.

    https://cyclingweekly.com/news/sam-bennett-and-patrick-lefevere-respond-to-irishmans-absence-from-tour-de-france-line-up

    "As for Cavendish, Lefevere sees taking the Manxman as a choice that can only have positives.

    "As far as Mark Cavendish is concerned, the expectations are not too high. He is not 30 years old anymore. It is to his credit that he is nervous as if he has to ride his first race in the juniors. If he does not win, everyone will think that is normal If he does win, everyone will put him on a throne," he said."
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    edited June 2021
    Maybe he wins 2 this year, 2 next year and 1 in 2023. 😁
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    He wins a stage it would be 13 years since his first. The longest gap between first and last was 14 years in 1909/1923.
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  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,313
    Bit on cycling news from LeFevre. Seems to be more going on re Bennett hence the Cavendish selection
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    Cav and I are basically the same age. All this talk of him being at retirements door is making it harder to believe my surprise call up for Omega-Ineos Saxky-Bank-Step is getting more and more unlikely.... 😞
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,486
    Nonsense! Keep training. It will happen! 😉
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    ddraver said:

    Cav and I are basically the same age. All this talk of him being at retirements door is making it harder to believe my surprise call up for Omega-Ineos Saxky-Bank-Step is getting more and more unlikely.... 😞

    It's the year you put in more slash better training and still go slower is the real depressing one
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    edited June 2021
    ddraver said:

    Cav and I are basically the same age. All this talk of him being at retirements door is making it harder to believe my surprise call up for Omega-Ineos Saxky-Bank-Step is getting more and more unlikely.... 😞

    I'm 3 years younger than Cav... we are the same height and weight too... Plenty of time for me yet!!



    I think my sprint power might be a few watts off though 🤔
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    edited June 2021
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