Tour de Suisse 2021 *****Spoilers****

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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Are Roglic and Pogacar doing any races before the Tour? Seems unusual to skip both the Dauphine and Tour de Suisse.

    Pogacar said on his website that he was down for the Dauphine

    https://tadejpogacar.com/tadej-pogacar-racing-schedule-2021/

    but Roglic was always planning to have no racing between LBL and the Tour. Can't think of many who have done that.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    phreak said:

    Are Roglic and Pogacar doing any races before the Tour? Seems unusual to skip both the Dauphine and Tour de Suisse.

    Pogacar said on his website that he was down for the Dauphine

    https://tadejpogacar.com/tadej-pogacar-racing-schedule-2021/

    but Roglic was always planning to have no racing between LBL and the Tour. Can't think of many who have done that.

    Nope. Interesting tactic
  • thejimmymethod
    thejimmymethod Posts: 458
    phreak said:

    Are Roglic and Pogacar doing any races before the Tour? Seems unusual to skip both the Dauphine and Tour de Suisse.

    Pogacar said on his website that he was down for the Dauphine

    https://tadejpogacar.com/tadej-pogacar-racing-schedule-2021/

    but Roglic was always planning to have no racing between LBL and the Tour. Can't think of many who have done that.

    Pog is down for the Tour of Slovenia this week
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    Lizzie D won the women's race today
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited June 2021
    The best times in the TT so far:

    1. Bissegger 12.04
    2. Dennis 12.23
    3. Powless 12.25

    A solid 12.32 for Dumoulin - currently 6th

    Edit: Soren Kragh Anderson goes second with 12.22
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    An update on the best times

    1. Kung 12.00
    2. Bissegger 12.04
    3. Scully 12.15
    4. Alaphilippe 12.19

    Dennis down to 9th

    Good GC rides by Schachmann (12.29) and Carapaz (12.31)
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    Not great for Dennis. Was there a change in conditions favouring later starters?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Pross said:

    Not great for Dennis. Was there a change in conditions favouring later starters?

    No idea. The weather doesn't seem to be good for anyone.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    edited June 2021
    Mattia Cattaneo goes third fastest -12.12

    Stage now over. I'm not sure who the GC riders are in this race.

    Looking at the highlights it looks as though it was wetter earlier on.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Pross said:

    Not great for Dennis. Was there a change in conditions favouring later starters?

    When I saw the result, I thought he must have done a Geraint.
    Although he may just have done a Ganna, pre Giro, as it's a surprisingly low par result.
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    Conditions were wet, so maybe Dennis didn't take any risks. Would be disappointing to miss the Tour after stacking it chasing a time in a meaningless short TT.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    andyp said:

    Conditions were wet, so maybe Dennis didn't take any risks. Would be disappointing to miss the Tour after stacking it chasing a time in a meaningless short TT.

    Sounds reasonable, haven't had the chance to watch so had no idea what the conditions were like.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    edited June 2021
    Pross said:

    andyp said:

    Conditions were wet, so maybe Dennis didn't take any risks. Would be disappointing to miss the Tour after stacking it chasing a time in a meaningless short TT.

    Sounds reasonable, haven't had the chance to watch so had no idea what the conditions were like.
    Just had a quick glance and it was wet when Dennis was on course, compared to later.
    Surprised that Ineos didn't plan for a change in conditions, as they usually factor this into rider order.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Carapaz finishing higher than Dumoulin. Yikes
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    The racing may have crossed over the Alps but the race has picked up the same awful weather as the Giro.
    The downhill and technical finish is going to be very tricky.
    Who will gamble their Tour by taking the risk?
    Mmmm now let me think....
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    Struggling to work out what group is what but the peloton split quite a bit on the descent under pressure from MvdP among others and everyone seems flat out. Two Swiss (Tombola and another) being pursued by two Canadians from Rally.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    Split in the peloton with Pozzovivo the wrong side along with half of Ineos (including Dennis) and Dumoulin with most of JV. Quite a substantial gap but front group seems to have eased off a bit. Unusual for Rowe to be the wrong side of that sort of split, they don't seem to concerned though as Carapaz has some support in the front group.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    Bohli and Imhof are the leaders. Bohli struggling on an unclassified climb with 16k to go and now dropped.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    Horrible weather before the last two steep climbs.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    edited June 2021
    Edit - only one to go.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    Van Der Poel is a great rider to watch. Put it all out there, and then managed to get Schachman to give him a breather before the sprint.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    MvdP climbed well then rode away with Schachmann before easily taking the win. Didn't expect him to make it over those climbs. Looks like Kung managed to hold on to yellow. Carapaz looked strong and almost closed to the two chasing just behind Schachmann and MvdP before it came back together.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    Rui Costa lost it on a manhole in the final few hundred metres and threw his bike across the road in temper.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    Those who went with Dennis in PTP will be disappointed, I think he rolled in with the group about 4 minutes down.

    Kung retains yellow by 1" from JA who surprisingly hadn't stuck to van Der Poel like a limpet.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Is MvdP riding the Tour this year? Or is this part of his olympics warm up? If so, what a waste
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,588
    rick_chasey said:

    Is MvdP riding the Tour this year? Or is this part of his olympics warm up? If so, what a waste

    Olympics MTB isn't he?
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    Just said in the interview he'd be riding the Tour and then MTB at the Olympics.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,575
    rick_chasey said:

    Is MvdP riding the Tour this year? Or is this part of his olympics warm up? If so, what a waste

    He's down to ride the Tour.
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,268
    Yes he is riding the Tour as well. Just been post race interviewed saying that.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,226
    There's a few stages in the first week he'll fancy, then maybe the one to Quillan. He'll win at least one, surely.

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