Giro 2021:- Stage 16: Sacile – Cortina d’Ampezzo 212 km **Spoilers**

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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730

    Apparently 4G was working just fine at the summit of the Giau, as a fan had it all set up to "watch" the final descent on ES Player.
    So maybe the cameraman's phone ran out of battery.

    At least in the old days we would have had a recording to watch.
    Innovation making a lot of difference in this case: all worse.

    Receiving a compressed stream to work on a phone isn't quite the same as transmitting a full broadcast level feed.

    Reading Twitter today really shows how little (quite understandably really) most people know about the technicalities of live TV broadcast tech, and how tricky cycling coverage is in particular.
    Fixed camera at a pass was doable in the 1990s even when the rest of the stage was weathered out .. that's over 20 years ago
    Talk about rubbing salt into the wound.



    Also, from the descent times off the Giau, it looks like Martinez must have crashed.
    Two and a half minutes slower than Izagirre and Bardet.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    He does look good on a bike doesn't he?

  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,108


    They also posted images of both the climbs implying they were rideable.
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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    Is the race earlier this year? Froome's break was 3 years ago today and that was later in the race so started earlier that year at least.
  • Pross said:

    Is the race earlier this year? Froome's break was 3 years ago today and that was later in the race so started earlier that year at least.

    One week earlier, as is The Tour, because of the Olympics
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227

    Pross said:

    Is the race earlier this year? Froome's break was 3 years ago today and that was later in the race so started earlier that year at least.

    One week earlier, as is The Tour, because of the Olympics
    Is this true?

    Date of final stage:
    2021 - 31 May
    2019 - 2 Jun
    2018 - 27 May
    2017 - 28 May
    2016 - 29 May
    2015 - 31 May
    2014 - 1 Jun
    2013 - 26 May
    2012 - 27 May
    2011 - 29 May
    2010 - 30 May
    2009 - 31 May
    etc

    Up to 2001 it finished a week later, but for the last 20 years it's not been more than 3 days later.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,313
    What was going on a number of years ago may not be relevant today. Cameras are now digital, use ip addresses etc. if the aircraft cant fly and thats how the signal gets there then it wont happen. Satellite time is expensive but does heavy cloud not affect satellites? I dont know how the military do it
  • Pross said:

    Is the race earlier this year? Froome's break was 3 years ago today and that was later in the race so started earlier that year at least.

    One week earlier, as is The Tour, because of the Olympics
    Is this true?

    Date of final stage:
    2021 - 31 May
    2019 - 2 Jun
    2018 - 27 May
    2017 - 28 May
    2016 - 29 May
    2015 - 31 May
    2014 - 1 Jun
    2013 - 26 May
    2012 - 27 May
    2011 - 29 May
    2010 - 30 May
    2009 - 31 May
    etc

    Up to 2001 it finished a week later, but for the last 20 years it's not been more than 3 days later.
    I may well have misheard/misread something in fairness.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593

    Pross said:

    Is the race earlier this year? Froome's break was 3 years ago today and that was later in the race so started earlier that year at least.

    One week earlier, as is The Tour, because of the Olympics
    Is this true?

    Date of final stage:
    2021 - 31 May
    2019 - 2 Jun
    2018 - 27 May
    2017 - 28 May
    2016 - 29 May
    2015 - 31 May
    2014 - 1 Jun
    2013 - 26 May
    2012 - 27 May
    2011 - 29 May
    2010 - 30 May
    2009 - 31 May
    etc

    Up to 2001 it finished a week later, but for the last 20 years it's not been more than 3 days later.
    That was what I thought. I know the Tour and Dauphine are earlier this year but didn't think the Giro was and that confirms it.

    It feels like there have been regular issues with the highest stages in recent years (talk of shortening even if it hasn't happened, loss of pictures) but that could just be that those stages stick in your mind as it is disappointing when it happens.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,313
    edited May 2021
    damned if they do start the race and it turns into a snowfest and damned if they dont. The cloud cover was the issue the aircraft cant go. Leeds/Bradford airport has issues with this as it's the highest in England. Some details here on coverage
    https://www.choose.co.uk/guide/satellite-tv-reception-bad-weather.html#:~:text=It's all down to the,quality of the satellite service.
  • bm5
    bm5 Posts: 599
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEWsG9AVsHU
    There’s a couple of videos on YouTube from the Giau. Love this one where the Italian fan sees the pink ef helmet of Simon Carr and thinks it’s Hugh.
  • amrushton
    amrushton Posts: 1,313
    edited May 2021
    looking at the state of some of the riders its a good job the distance was reduced. But still faster than me
  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632
    edited May 2021
    No gloves on George Bennet. Blimey.

    Great video that.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227

    No gloves on George Bennet. Blimey.

    Must have picked up a musette after that video. Carried it down to the finish line.


  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953

    No gloves on George Bennet. Blimey.

    Must have picked up a musette after that video. Carried it down to the finish line.


    My hands are the first thing that gets cold. How can he be fully covered everywhere and have no gloves :#
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Just wanted to point out from the post above that anyone tuning in to watch the time trial on the 31st will have missed it.
    The last stage is on May 30th.


    Now, I have a question: where were all the drones that we were told, not so long ago, were going to revolutionise live coverage in the mountains?
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  • Lanterne_Rogue
    Lanterne_Rogue Posts: 4,340

    Now, I have a question: where were all the drones that we were told, not so long ago, were going to revolutionise live coverage in the mountains?

    The section in the AAIB's monthly summary of accident reports that might as well be titled "Drones that spontaneously combusted, fell apart, or departed unexpectedly for France - and that we don't have the resource to investigate because there's hundreds of the little sods doing it every month now" may provide a clue as to why you don't want to fly them near crowds unnecessarily just yet.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784

    No gloves on George Bennet. Blimey.

    Must have picked up a musette after that video. Carried it down to the finish line.



    If the musette was empty, or almost, he would have been better off using it as a newspaper, instead of having it flap around.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784
    Bernal starts the Giau descent.


  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    jimmyjams said:

    Bernal starts the Giau descent.


    Hell of a way to spend your rest day.
  • jimmyjams
    jimmyjams Posts: 784
    Remco speaks after the Giau stage:

    “The day was bad. In the end, two months of training was not enough to be 100% ready for this Giro. The rest day on Tuesday will do good and then we will fight during the last week. I never said I would quit the race. As long as I feel capable of going all the way, why won't I make it to Milan?“
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,227
    Weather looking much better for tomorrow.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717

    jimmyjams said:

    Bernal starts the Giau descent.


    Hell of a way to spend your rest day.
    crackin' late season corn turns to be had there....
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    jimmyjams said:

    Remco speaks after the Giau stage:

    “The day was bad. In the end, two months of training was not enough to be 100% ready for this Giro. The rest day on Tuesday will do good and then we will fight during the last week. I never said I would quit the race. As long as I feel capable of going all the way, why won't I make it to Milan?“

    Fair play to him use it for just putting the miles in . Hope he does not wreck himself
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  • yorkshireraw
    yorkshireraw Posts: 1,632

    jimmyjams said:

    Remco speaks after the Giau stage:

    “The day was bad. In the end, two months of training was not enough to be 100% ready for this Giro. The rest day on Tuesday will do good and then we will fight during the last week. I never said I would quit the race. As long as I feel capable of going all the way, why won't I make it to Milan?“

    Fair play to him use it for just putting the miles in . Hope he does not wreck himself
    In the words of Ice Cube (appropriate after yesterday...)

    "You better check yo self before you wreck yo self
    'Cause I'm bad for your health"
  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,444
    James Knox's audio diary on the cycling podcast is always worth a listen. Bit of insight into Evenepoel and Almeida. Also how hard it was for him (and a pretty candid opinion on the shortening of the stage - he was for it).
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,593
    edited May 2021
    I was looking at the rest of my PTP picks earlier and it was hard to justify going for anyone other than Bernal on the remaining three MTFs.

  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    The gruppetto look well wrapped up.
  • pblakeney
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    phreak said:

    The gruppetto look well wrapped up.
    The EF guys weren't messing around in the stay warm competition. 😉
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