Giro 2021:- Stage 4: Piacenza – Sestola 186 km **Spoilers**
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Looked like Moscon finished ahead of Sivakov? Guess that's all in for Bernal then.....0
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12 seconds, I think.
So which contenders aren't contending any more?0 -
One or two GC men no longer GC men"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0
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Be interesting to see what Almeida lost.
Was Remco with Yates?0 -
Bad day for Jumbo Visma's B team.0
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Almedia 5'58" behind winner.0
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Was the eventual winner in the bernal group?
Almeida only coming in now ... Oufff"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Almeida +4mins0
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Great PTP pick by me today!Dorset_Boy said:Almedia 5'58" behind winner.
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YesDorset_Boy said:Be interesting to see what Almeida lost.
Was Remco with Yates?Twitter: @RichN950 -
I'm surprised Dombro is only 29. Thought he'd been around forever.
30th birthday tomorrow apparently0 -
GC contenders now Vlasov, Evenepoel +4, Carthy +14, Bernal +150
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Landa +25, Yates +25, Pozzovivo +41, Martin +44, Sivakov +44, Nibali +51, Soler +52, Buchmann +1:05kingstongraham said:GC contenders now Vlasov, Evenepoel +4, Carthy +14, Bernal +15
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Biggest named biggest loser on the day was Bauke Mollema. He lost 12 and a half minutes to Bernal's group.
The 2 other young climbers who I thought could hang with the bunch today, but didn't: young Brit Simon Carr and last year's Giro other surprise package and dark horse, Harm Vanhoucke. Both took a 20 minute hit.
The Viviani brothers were the last pair home."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
It will be written in cycling record books and always will be known as the 4th stage of the 2021 Giro.ddraver said:Good on Dombrowski! Been a long time coming...
I was only half watching but noticed Hatch said it was "a Giro Stage that will go Down IN HISTory (sic)"....
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Riding in the rain/cold sometimes just sucks.
Remco is clear leader for QS now. Think the winner can only come from the Yates time group or above (Bernal group). Even the 2:11 of the Nibali group seems too steep already.PTP Champion 2019, 2022 & 20230 -
Remco was always the leader.m.r.m. said:Riding in the rain/cold sometimes just sucks.
Remco is clear leader for QS now. Think the winner can only come from the Yates time group or above (Bernal group). Even the 2:11 of the Nibali group seems too steep already."Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago0 -
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That's true, Rich, but it's rare for someone's form to improve over three weeks, it's usually a case of who can delay the drop in form the longest who wins.0
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Could I just say, don't often get the chance and may not get another soon, Nicolas Edet sits in sixth.0
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Carr was tipped for today by several on another forum which I frequent.blazing_saddles said:Biggest named biggest loser on the day was Bauke Mollema. He lost 12 and a half minutes to Bernal's group.
The 2 other young climbers who I thought could hang with the bunch today, but didn't: young Brit Simon Carr and last year's Giro other surprise package and dark horse, Harm Vanhoucke. Both took a 20 minute hit.
The Viviani brothers were the last pair home.
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Doesn't Landa's form normally improve over a GT? So he's usually hampered by a poor start? If so, he's got off to a good start.andyp said:That's true, Rich, but it's rare for someone's form to improve over three weeks, it's usually a case of who can delay the drop in form the longest who wins.
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Yeah right.andyp said:That's true, Rich, but it's rare for someone's form to improve over three weeks, it's usually a case of who can delay the drop in form the longest who wins.
It's so rare it's happened every other year since 2012.
Just last year TGH was 3 minutes down going into the final week.
2018 Froome was 5 minutes down starting the final week.
2016 Nibali almost 3 minutes down
2014 Quintana down 2-40
2012 Hesjedal just that 30 seconds Rich mentioned."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
TGH lost time on Etna because he forgot to eat. Otherwise he was with, or ahead of, the main GC contenders on every stage until he won at Piancavallo.blazing_saddles said:
Yeah right.andyp said:That's true, Rich, but it's rare for someone's form to improve over three weeks, it's usually a case of who can delay the drop in form the longest who wins.
It's so rare it's happened every other year since 2012.
Just last year TGH was 3 minutes down going into the final week.0 -
andyp said:
TGH lost time on Etna because he forgot to eat. Otherwise he was with, or ahead of, the main GC contenders on every stage until he won at Piancavallo.
And maybe someone didn't eat properly today. Or just go badly in awful weather
But if you're going to write someone off because they lost 30s on stage 4 then welcome to your first GiroTwitter: @RichN952 -
Yup.RichN95. said:andyp said:
TGH lost time on Etna because he forgot to eat. Otherwise he was with, or ahead of, the main GC contenders on every stage until he won at Piancavallo.
And maybe someone didn't eat properly today. Or just go badly in awful weather
But if you're going to write someone off because they lost 30s on stage 4 then welcome to your first Giro
2019: Carapaz was 1-19 down on Roglic going into stage 5.
2017: First 4 were GC contenders going into stage 5, best after stage 21 was 6th.
etc etc"Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I've not written anyone off who finished thirty seconds down. But Almeida and Bennett are out of the picture.0
