This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
Its funny though, because out here in the sticks almost everyone says hello unless there's something about the road situation that takes precedence, even if it is a strained "I'm in a tunnel of pain" nod. And the poker face "must not show weakness" or "I'm training not here for fun" types really irritate me.
Most likely this is because I don't have anything else pressing to be irritated about at that moment.
The ones that REALLY get my flucking goat are the ones that take advantage of a draft without a word of greeting then merrily zoom past, again without a word. They're really annoying. Especially since I don't even ride that fast. They could easily sail past without the wheel sucking.
Think I need a mirror or something so that I know they're there. Anyone got any suggestions?
I have just read that there is now 6.3 million people cycling once a week in the UK. So there’s f*ck all chance of me waving to 900,000 every time I go for a ride.
I have just read that there is now 6.3 million people cycling once a week in the UK. So there’s f*ck all chance of me waving to 900,000 every time I go for a ride.
What odds there is a company somewhere on kickstarer that has designed a bluetooth and USB "saying hello" device?
I have just read that there is now 6.3 million people cycling once a week in the UK. So there’s f*ck all chance of me waving to 900,000 every time I go for a ride.
This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
I wouldn’t wave at you Shirley.
I would, and when he didn't wave back, I'd pull a quick U-turn, chase him down, and ask him why the hell not. Bike-mounted fisticuffs or lobbing of bidons might then ensue because someone not waving/nodding/grinning at me in return to my cheery greeting is cause for a duel, as my honour has been gravely impugned. Have at ye, ye varmint, miscreant, ne'er-do-well blackguard!
The ones that REALLY get my flucking goat are the ones that take advantage of a draft without a word of greeting then merrily zoom past, again without a word. They're really annoying. Especially since I don't even ride that fast. They could easily sail past without the wheel sucking.
Think I need a mirror or something so that I know they're there. Anyone got any suggestions?
why do people draft?
especially if you have disc brakes and the person drafting has rim brakes surely its dangerous?
The ones that REALLY get my flucking goat are the ones that take advantage of a draft without a word of greeting then merrily zoom past, again without a word. They're really annoying. Especially since I don't even ride that fast. They could easily sail past without the wheel sucking.
Think I need a mirror or something so that I know they're there. Anyone got any suggestions?
why do people draft?
especially if you have disc brakes and the person drafting has rim brakes surely its dangerous?
This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
I wouldn’t wave at you Shirley.
I would, and when he didn't wave back, I'd pull a quick U-turn, chase him down, and ask him why the hell not. Bike-mounted fisticuffs or lobbing of bidons might then ensue because someone not waving/nodding/grinning at me in return to my cheery greeting is cause for a duel, as my honour has been gravely impugned. Have at ye, ye varmint, miscreant, ne'er-do-well blackguard!
Or I'd just cycle on, thinking nothing of it.
So long as we don't have to wave goodbye when it's all over.
This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
I wouldn’t wave at you Shirley.
I would, and when he didn't wave back, I'd pull a quick U-turn, chase him down, and ask him why the hell not. Bike-mounted fisticuffs or lobbing of bidons might then ensue because someone not waving/nodding/grinning at me in return to my cheery greeting is cause for a duel, as my honour has been gravely impugned. Have at ye, ye varmint, miscreant, ne'er-do-well blackguard!
Or I'd just cycle on, thinking nothing of it.
So long as we don't have to wave goodbye when it's all over.
We do though. Cycling is waving, and waving is cycling. Without one, the other is nothing.
I think this standard needs to be dropped at least in the city. I see hundreds of riders in London on the weekend. I cant wave at everyone and maintain safety.
In the country side... Get over it. Some ppl are just in their own headspace. We're not out in the countryside riding quiet lanes looking for social interaction.
If I walk around in a town centre, I don't say hello to everyone.
If I go for a walk in the countryside and pass someone, I do, because its weird not to.
So don't be weird, eh?
Im a waver in the countryside on an easy day, but if im doing intervals or coming off one, i probably wouldnt see my own mother on the other side of the road. I think some leeway should be given for that, sometimes i pass people and it doesnt register to wave until after if youre focused keeping control.
The only people who should be shamed are those who stare at you for more than two seconds and not wave. Now thats weird.
And where I come from, we're known to be a friendly bunch, so any weirdness i have Ive picked up from you lot
My roundabout point is - if someone doesn't wave back - they aren't anything that the OP that described them as.
Waving is a nice thing to do and it's pleasant to receive one back. To not wave is normal - not evidence of a self-obsessed, rude, arrogant, tryhard or whatever.
This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
I wouldn’t wave at you Shirley.
I would, and when he didn't wave back, I'd pull a quick U-turn, chase him down, and ask him why the hell not. Bike-mounted fisticuffs or lobbing of bidons might then ensue because someone not waving/nodding/grinning at me in return to my cheery greeting is cause for a duel, as my honour has been gravely impugned. Have at ye, ye varmint, miscreant, ne'er-do-well blackguard!
Or I'd just cycle on, thinking nothing of it.
Taser is appropriate in this circumstance. The friendly wave must be preserved AT ALL COSTS. No deterrent against being impolite is too much.
I was out for a run this morning said "morning" to an approaching cyclist and he completely ignored me.
I felt discriminated against!
Did you tell him that you are also a cyclists and the cyclists wave must be preserved at all costs? Maybe carry a megaphone when you go running, that way you can start the explanation from further back and they have no excuse for not hearing you. But what if they are wearing headphones? Maybe we should start a thread about that as well. This is getting far too complicated.
This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
I wouldn’t wave at you Shirley.
I would, and when he didn't wave back, I'd pull a quick U-turn, chase him down, and ask him why the hell not. Bike-mounted fisticuffs or lobbing of bidons might then ensue because someone not waving/nodding/grinning at me in return to my cheery greeting is cause for a duel, as my honour has been gravely impugned. Have at ye, ye varmint, miscreant, ne'er-do-well blackguard!
Or I'd just cycle on, thinking nothing of it.
So long as we don't have to wave goodbye when it's all over.
This is important and says a lot about folk too.. Acknowledgement of fellow cyclists should be something that is preserved at all costs as it’s only a good thing and encouraging all round... unfortunately we live in a self obsessed world where it’s all about me, myself and I.. And that’s to our detriment, but some folk whom are obviously wrapped up in themselves dont see any kind of issue
Preserved at all costs?
What the hell are you on about?
Of all the things to be to be preserved at all costs, waving at total strangers should be so far down the list as to be on the list of 'things to be eradicated at all costs'.
Jesus Christ how do you people function if you're so upset about strangers not waving to you.
I wouldn’t wave at you Shirley.
I would, and when he didn't wave back, I'd pull a quick U-turn, chase him down, and ask him why the hell not. Bike-mounted fisticuffs or lobbing of bidons might then ensue because someone not waving/nodding/grinning at me in return to my cheery greeting is cause for a duel, as my honour has been gravely impugned. Have at ye, ye varmint, miscreant, ne'er-do-well blackguard!
Or I'd just cycle on, thinking nothing of it.
So long as we don't have to wave goodbye when it's all over.
it ain't over 'til its over...
Ok Lenny
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Felt Z6 2012
Red Arthur Caygill steel frame
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I only return a wave in the following circumstances:
1) Bars are slammed, no steerer spacers 2) Not in pro kit, Championship or race leader jersey 3) Not using bottles larger than 610ml 4) Saddle is matching bartape 5) Rider is wearing black shorts 6) Correct length socks are sported (not too long, not too short) 7) No saddle bag to be seen 8) No frame pump 9) The rider is wearing glasses, with the correct helmet (no peak) strap/glasses arm placement 10) MUST be riding a 53/39, preferably in the big ring 11) No aerobars (in fact, anyone who I suspect of being a triathlete, see the socks rule) 12) Correct length cabling in general. I tend to ignore anyone with a groupset below super record or DA. 12) The rider MUST be on the drops and cranking. 13) The rider must be wearing the appropriate clothing for the conditions. 14) Crank length must be appropriate for rider height 15) Rider is riding rim brakes. Unless in the Alps, in which case they must be riding rim brakes
The ones that REALLY get my flucking goat are the ones that take advantage of a draft without a word of greeting then merrily zoom past, again without a word. They're really annoying. Especially since I don't even ride that fast. They could easily sail past without the wheel sucking.
Think I need a mirror or something so that I know they're there. Anyone got any suggestions?
I need to add 'mirrors' to my wave-not-to-be-returned list
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Most likely this is because I don't have anything else pressing to be irritated about at that moment.
Think I need a mirror or something so that I know they're there. Anyone got any suggestions?
Or I'd just cycle on, thinking nothing of it.
why do people draft?
especially if you have disc brakes and the person drafting has rim brakes surely its dangerous?
The only people who should be shamed are those who stare at you for more than two seconds and not wave. Now thats weird.
And where I come from, we're known to be a friendly bunch, so any weirdness i have Ive picked up from you lot
Waving is a nice thing to do and it's pleasant to receive one back. To not wave is normal - not evidence of a self-obsessed, rude, arrogant, tryhard or whatever.
I was out for a run this morning said "morning" to an approaching cyclist and he completely ignored me.
I felt discriminated against!
2020 Voodoo Marasa
2017 Cube Attain GTC Pro Disc 2016
2016 Voodoo Wazoo
But what if they are wearing headphones? Maybe we should start a thread about that as well. This is getting far too complicated.
Marin Nail Trail
Cotic Solaris
Felt Z6 2012
Red Arthur Caygill steel frame
Tall....
www.seewildlife.co.uk
If not, why not?
1) Bars are slammed, no steerer spacers
2) Not in pro kit, Championship or race leader jersey
3) Not using bottles larger than 610ml
4) Saddle is matching bartape
5) Rider is wearing black shorts
6) Correct length socks are sported (not too long, not too short)
7) No saddle bag to be seen
8) No frame pump
9) The rider is wearing glasses, with the correct helmet (no peak) strap/glasses arm placement
10) MUST be riding a 53/39, preferably in the big ring
11) No aerobars (in fact, anyone who I suspect of being a triathlete, see the socks rule)
12) Correct length cabling in general. I tend to ignore anyone with a groupset below super record or DA.
12) The rider MUST be on the drops and cranking.
13) The rider must be wearing the appropriate clothing for the conditions.
14) Crank length must be appropriate for rider height
15) Rider is riding rim brakes. Unless in the Alps, in which case they must be riding rim brakes
Obviously this is the short list.
Regards,
Michael P
Hunt Wheel Chief Designer
London Dynamo