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thesquireofbanwellthesquireofbanwell Posts: 131
edited 27 April in The cake stop
Not that he has ever gone away, but from pontificating about the Covid vaccine a few days ago he is now spouting about Scottish devolution!
Having let the nation down with the Good Friday Agreement, The Iraq war (and WMD) and failing as a 'Special middle east envoy' (I'm sure there is more) why is the media allowing him the publicity he so desperately seeks?
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  • First.AspectFirst.Aspect Posts: 5,847
    Because he has called it right more often than:
    1. Boris
    2. Dominic
    3. Boris

    (I thought Boris was significant enough to mention again)
  • womackwomack Posts: 137
    Horrible person.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 53,835 Lives Here

    Not that he has ever gone away, but from pontificating about the Covid vaccine a few days ago he is now spouting about Scottish devolution!
    Having let the nation down with the Good Friday Agreement, The Iraq war (and WMD) and failing as a 'Special middle east envoy' (I'm sure there is more) why is the media allowing him the publicity he so desperately seeks?


  • surrey_commutersurrey_commuter Posts: 13,263
    It does intrigue me how the whole WMD has stuck as such an issue when the same people have no issue with our involvement in Afghanistan. To me our involvement in both was down to wanting to suck up to the Yanks so is this all down to the cover up being worse than the crime.
  • tailwindhometailwindhome Posts: 16,158
    He's been a constructive voice in the Covid crisis and his analysis of the NI situation with regard to Brexit has been bang on the money, both before the referendum and since.

    His policy lead at the Tony Blair Institue @AntonSpisak is a must follow if you're interesting in Brexit at all



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  • super_davosuper_davo Posts: 617
    I find it amazing that someone who won three elections, oversaw 10 years of pretty much solid growth and played a significant role in securing peace in one of the longest running conflicts in the world can be seen as such a pariah now.

    I was never a huge fan at the time but if you ask me who I would take out of Cameron, May, Johnson and Blair to lead us through Covid and the next few years it would be a no contest. Yes the Iraq war was a massive error caused by us blindly following America, but it wasn't the Brexit referendum, impossible negotiation red lines or a border down the Irish sea.
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 14,757

    ... why is the media allowing him the publicity he so desperately seeks?

    To answer the question, because publicity for him is publicity for them. He needs the publicity to maintain the profile required to demand 5 figure sums for giving dinner speeches.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 15,068
    Most controversially, I think his hair looks OK. It's what David Gilmour would choose if he had Roger Waters' hairline.
  • surrey_commutersurrey_commuter Posts: 13,263
    pblakeney said:

    ... why is the media allowing him the publicity he so desperately seeks?

    To answer the question, because publicity for him is publicity for them. He needs the publicity to maintain the profile required to demand 5 figure sums for giving dinner speeches.
    Google the agencies that get you after dinner speakers, 5 figures will get you the Big Brother voice over man.
  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,082
    He's a 6-7 figure after dinner speaker
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 14,757

    He's a 6-7 figure after dinner speaker

    Thanks for the correction. I was thinking per head.
    Ridiculous, isn't it. Muppets for paying though.
    The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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    PB is the most sensible person on here.
  • seanoconnseanoconn Posts: 7,314
    Slightly off topic. My sister (head of English at the time) had to face both Blair’s during parents evening! Quite daunting for a teacher.
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  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,082
    Isn't his son a bit wayward?
  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,082
    pblakeney said:

    He's a 6-7 figure after dinner speaker

    Thanks for the correction. I was thinking per head.
    Ridiculous, isn't it. Muppets for paying though.
    Companies pay, it's tax deductible and it guarantees good guests.

    I had claire balding once - fark me she was dull.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 53,835 Lives Here

    Most controversially, I think his hair looks OK. It's what David Gilmour would choose if he had Roger Waters' hairline.

    This is a terrible take. It makes him look like Peter Stringfellow's brother.
  • morstarmorstar Posts: 4,179

    I find it amazing that someone who won three elections, oversaw 10 years of pretty much solid growth and played a significant role in securing peace in one of the longest running conflicts in the world can be seen as such a pariah now.

    I was never a huge fan at the time but if you ask me who I would take out of Cameron, May, Johnson and Blair to lead us through Covid and the next few years it would be a no contest. Yes the Iraq war was a massive error caused by us blindly following America, but it wasn't the Brexit referendum, impossible negotiation red lines or a border down the Irish sea.

    This.

    I think the anti rhetoric is twofold. Tory party for obvious reasons but old labour want to wreck the new Labour legacy.

    Sooner we get new, new Labour and a credible opposition the better.
    Kier is either quietly laying foundations or it’s a long way off yet.
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  • secretsqirrelsecretsqirrel Posts: 1,235

    Not that he has ever gone away, but from pontificating about the Covid vaccine a few days ago he is now spouting about Scottish devolution!

    Weirdly lots of Scottish people are spouting about Scottish devolution.
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 15,068

    Most controversially, I think his hair looks OK. It's what David Gilmour would choose if he had Roger Waters' hairline.

    This is a terrible take. It makes him look like Peter Stringfellow's brother.
    Nah - very "I have a studio in the house, just next to the garage with my sports cars, but I don't think we'll ever get the band back together, me and Gordon just went in different directions."
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 53,835 Lives Here
    Is there something you're not telling us, Kingston?
  • kingstongrahamkingstongraham Posts: 15,068
    I miss him.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 53,835 Lives Here
    edited 28 April
    It is remarkable how heavyweight he and Brown seem versus Cameron, May and BoJo.

    I don't think it is just time eroding the noise and leaving only the heavyweight stuff.
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 9,129
    A class A star Tanker, typical lying labour leading PIA. About as loathed as Mr *hite brown.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • Ben6899Ben6899 Posts: 8,428

    Most controversially, I think his hair looks OK. It's what David Gilmour would choose if he had Roger Waters' hairline.

    This is a terrible take. It makes him look like Peter Stringfellow's brother.
    Nah - very "I have a studio in the house, just next to the garage with my sports cars, but I don't think we'll ever get the band back together, me and Gordon just went in different directions."

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  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 12,244
    "Ask me for my three main priorities for government and I tell you: education, education and education ." Then tuition fees and ending of grants.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 12,244

    pblakeney said:

    He's a 6-7 figure after dinner speaker

    Thanks for the correction. I was thinking per head.
    Ridiculous, isn't it. Muppets for paying though.
    Companies pay, it's tax deductible and it guarantees good guests.

    I had claire balding once - fark me she was dull.
    Corporate entertainment isn't tax deductible which is particularly painful for LLPs.
  • shirley_bassoshirley_basso Posts: 4,082

    pblakeney said:

    He's a 6-7 figure after dinner speaker

    Thanks for the correction. I was thinking per head.
    Ridiculous, isn't it. Muppets for paying though.
    Companies pay, it's tax deductible and it guarantees good guests.

    I had claire balding once - fark me she was dull.
    Corporate entertainment isn't tax deductible which is particularly painful for LLPs.
    I stand corrected. We just went from LLP to PLC.
  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 12,244

    pblakeney said:

    He's a 6-7 figure after dinner speaker

    Thanks for the correction. I was thinking per head.
    Ridiculous, isn't it. Muppets for paying though.
    Companies pay, it's tax deductible and it guarantees good guests.

    I had claire balding once - fark me she was dull.
    Corporate entertainment isn't tax deductible which is particularly painful for LLPs.
    I stand corrected. We just went from LLP to PLC.
    I should imagine that means a few former partners are happy. They could now probably afford to book their own private speaker.
  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 53,835 Lives Here

    "Ask me for my three main priorities for government and I tell you: education, education and education ." Then tuition fees and ending of grants.


  • TheBigBeanTheBigBean Posts: 12,244

    "Ask me for my three main priorities for government and I tell you: education, education and education ." Then tuition fees and ending of grants.


    Doesn't really change the point though does it?
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