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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    johngti said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Good game. Not sure the better side won, but the Wales scored 4 tries to 3.
    Hogg's slip, and the break at the end .....

    A wins a win! Scotland have been one of two form teams (France is the other IMO). Wales played better on both weekends than they did in the autumn though.
    Very true, and momentum is a really big factor in the 6 Nations.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    Actually a very good game of rugby second half. You'd never have known Scotland were a man down for 20 minutes and I thought Wales had thrown it away with poor place kicking but rode their luck and, combined with much improve defence, hung on. Wales looked far better after changing half backs, Biggar looks out of sorts at the moment. Rees-Zamitt is class, him and Adams will be a lethal combination.

    As it stands I can't see beyond France for the championship but let's see how they get on against Ireland tomorrow.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    Rees-Zammit’s chip and chase was pure bliss
  • orraloon
    orraloon Posts: 13,290
    See what it is to be Scottish? Business as usual, close but... 🙁
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    johngti said:

    Rees-Zammit’s chip and chase was pure bliss

    And the clearance kick, the confidence of a youngster playing well. Two tries, an assist and that kick possibly clinched the game.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,731
    Before the match I thought we had zero chance.
    Wales campaign so far: If you can't be good, be lucky.
    England continued to look off colour, today too.
    2 weeks time should be interesting.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,542
    Dorset_Boy said:

    Good game. Not sure the better side won, but the Wales scored 4 tries to 3.
    Hogg's slip, and the break at the end .....

    ...due to kicking into marked space in the last 3 minutes, a man down, in the opposition half when all you are looking for is a drop goal...stupid.
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    pblakeney said:

    Dorset_Boy said:

    Good game. Not sure the better side won, but the Wales scored 4 tries to 3.
    Hogg's slip, and the break at the end .....

    ...due to kicking into marked space in the last 3 minutes, a man down, in the opposition half when all you are looking for is a drop goal...stupid.
    Yes, kicking possession away with less than 3 minutes left when you need a score, any score, to win, is plain dumb.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,729
    Pross said:

    Probably an upshot of the size of players and being banned from going in hard with a shoulder. I used to hate being the one over a ball like that you are vulnerable to any contact. I don't see rolling someone being much different to just being smashed. In either situation if your foot stays in one place and your body doesn't you have a problem.

    Appears it actually is being taught. At junior level too!!

    Post worth a read...

    http://benryan.co.uk/the-crocodile-roll-and-the-need-for-action/
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    Question probably for Pross as he seems to know a bit about rugby. No offence meant to any other rugby officianados.

    In the first half a Scottish player kicked the ball, it bounced a few times, the Welsh player, Williams I think, watched I'd bobble into touch and Scotland got the throw in.

    In the last couple of minutes when Zammit booted it upfield and it bounced a couple of times into touch Scotland again got the throw in.

    Why is that?

    Sorry I should add my rugby knowledge is minimal, just confused me, don't really watch rugby but the wife, Scottish, insisted we should sit and watch it together, me being Welsh I think she was thinking (pre game) it would be one of the few times at rugby she would have the "gloating rights"
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,542
    In the first example Scotland must have had a penalty, giving them the throw in.
    Standard in-play for the Welsh example.
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  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,243
    Pross said:

    johngti said:

    Rees-Zammit’s chip and chase was pure bliss

    And the clearance kick, the confidence of a youngster playing well. Two tries, an assist and that kick possibly clinched the game.
    He also won a penalty at a ruck looking like a 7. Worthy man of the match.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    Can't recall the instances but the only time you retain possession from a kick to touch is from a full penalty so assume the Scottish example was from a penalty kick but it's unusual for it to then not go directly into touch. The only other possibility would be if it had touched a Welsh player before crossing the line.
  • womack
    womack Posts: 566
    Thanks all for explanations.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    edited February 2021
    Ireland & France spent the first 30 minutes playing kick tennis.
    Then France with 14 burst into life to score a great team try.

    Good to see Luke Pearce putting his french lessons to good use.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    Only just switched on so haven't seen his performance in this match but I like Luke Pearce as a ref. I watch club rugby with his uncle so I've heard about him as he was coming through the ranks.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    Pross said:

    Only just switched on so haven't seen his performance in this match but I like Luke Pearce as a ref. I watch club rugby with his uncle so I've heard about him as he was coming through the ranks.

    He's been very good from the start of his career and will be the best ref in the world soon.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    Agreed, he's another like Owens that communicates well so even when he gets things wrong or the players disagree they accept it and get on with things.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    Nasty clash of heads between Healey and Henderson. Can't see either coming back on.
  • mrb123
    mrb123 Posts: 4,837
    Pross said:

    Agreed, he's another like Owens that communicates well so even when he gets things wrong or the players disagree they accept it and get on with things.

    Multi lingual too.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,731
    Not a great game. Far too many errors and aimless kicking.
    With that France score a second to leave Ireland staring at a salvage operation for the remaining matches.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,731
    A petit cadeau for Ireland and a lifeline
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,729
    What is it with teams kicking the ball away in the last 5 mins now??

    (Mind you both times it's "worked" so...)
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
    - @ddraver
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    Shaun Edwards defence at its finest there. Ireland with phase after phase in the final play but end up losing ground before getting turned over.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    Surprised Henderson passed his HIA after listening to his interview. He sounded a bit dazed and confused.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    Tense finale, but not a great game. I think both sides had hacked Eddie's kick, kick, kick playbook!
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,731
    The cancellation of the France v Scotland game has left the tournament in a bit of a mess as they look unlikely to find a suitable date this side of the Summer.
    Also it takes away France's headache and hands it to Scotland, who are likely to lose players due to club commitments.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,243
    blazing_saddles said:

    The cancellation of the France v Scotland game has left the tournament in a bit of a mess as they look unlikely to find a suitable date this side of the Summer.
    Also it takes away France's headache and hands it to Scotland, who are likely to lose players due to club commitments.

    Should just be declared a Scotland bonus point win.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,634
    kingstongraham said:

    blazing_saddles said:

    The cancellation of the France v Scotland game has left the tournament in a bit of a mess as they look unlikely to find a suitable date this side of the Summer.
    Also it takes away France's headache and hands it to Scotland, who are likely to lose players due to club commitments.

    Should just be declared a Scotland bonus point win.
    Agree with this apart from the BP. There should have been a rule at the start that if you fail to field a team due to Covid you forfeit the win. There's no reason why the virus should get into the team if they operate within a biosecure bubble for the duration.
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,616
    Rumour is that it was Fabien Galthie who broke the bubble.

    They could have looked to postpone by one week as it's a fallow weekend, and made that decision by Tuesday lunchtime.
    Scotland could have then released their players back to the English clubs for this weekend on the proviso the English clubs then released them back again for the revised date.

    Given that Scotland and Wales have players moving in and out of their bubbles, I think the French have been unlucky, but the tournament rules should have been crystal clear about what would happen in this situation, afterall they've only had 10 months to realise this was a possibility.

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