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Giro 2020 - Stage 14: Conegliano – Valdobbiadene 34.1 km ITT *Spoilers*

Stage 14: Conegliano – Valdobbiadene 34.1 km ITT
Saturday, October 17th, 11:35 BST

The Giro d'Italia serves its second individual time trial on the thirteenth day of action. The hilly route amounts to 34.1 kilometres and features a wall-like climb of 1.1 kilometre at 12% early on.
From Conegliano to Valdobbiadene, start and finish are exactly the same as the ITT of the Giro 2015, except that that one was 59 km long. How times have changed!



The start ramp is located in Conegliano, a town of 35,000 people which is dominated by the ruins of a 10th century castle. The town also hosted the start of Queen Stage of the 2011 Giro, which was won by Mikel Nieve.



The route of this year starts with 6.3 km flat before entering the only climb of the day, Ca’ del Poggio (GPM4, 1.1 km at 12.3%)



The next sector measures 10 km of twisty but flattish roads up to the second checkpoint in Pieve di Soligo, after which the road gets easier until the third checkpoint in Col S.Martino. A false flat uphill of 5.5 kilometres takes the riders to the highest point on the route at roughly 350 metres before a 3 kilometres descent leads into Valdobbiadene. The final section is a short kick-up to the line.



This is the reason why some TT specialists are here, but they will have a tough time trying to better the flying Filippo Ganna.

Conegliano



Conegliano is a walled town built around its medieval castle, whose Renaissance splendour is still etched in its noble palaces and painted façades. n its historic centre the Duomo (Cathedral) is well worth a visit: it contains one of the artist’s most famous works, the “Madonna and Child Enthroned with Angels and Saints”.



Valdobbiadene

Valdobbiadene is an important town in the area, of ancient origins, full of interesting religious buildings as well as typical Venetian-style villas.



Food

The spit roast is part and parcel of the gastronomic traditions of the area. Its true home is the commune of Pieve di Soligo, which organises a series of events in its honour every year. In 2010 it was recognized as a “Certified Traditional Product”. A typical snack in the zone is to enjoy a glass of Conegliano Valdobbiadene Prosecco Superiore with a plate of sliced cold cuts and white homemade bread.



Cheeses, whether matured or young, have always played a part in the hospitality of the Treviso area, either served simply with bread or polenta or on a cheeseboard, accompanied by a glass of wine. The most distinctive types are Morlacco del Grappa, “Formajo Imbriago” a cheese that matures in the grape pomace and the Alpine cheeses in general, particularly those from Mount Cesen. Casatella Trevigiana D.O.P.



THE PROSECCO SUPERIORE DOCG

The story of Prosecco Superiore DOCG began in the hills of Conegliano Valdobbiadene: a small but high-quality area lying 50 kilometres north of Venice and 100 from the Dolomites.
Here wine production dates back to ancient times, and over the course of the centuries the continuous labour of man has modified the morphology of the countryside, creating unique scenery characterized by vineyards that literally create a patchwork on its hillsides.



The success story of Conegliano Valdobbiadene Prosecco began in 1876, the year that Italy’s First School of Winemaking was founded in Conegliano. This was followed in 1923 by the Institute for Viticultural Experimentation. Thanks to these centres for study and research, the vine-growers learnt to plant vineyards high up in the hills, in particular around Valdobbiadene, where cultivating vines is defined as “heroic”: here viticulture is exhausting and difficult because of the slopes, some of which have gradients of up to 70% and which force growers to carry out vineyard operations almost exclusively by hand. Indeed, to tend these vineyards up to 800 hours’ work is required each year, compared to 150 on the plain.



In the cellar, on the other hand, the so-called Italian Method for making sparkling wines was being perfected, which calls for refermentation in autoclaves (large pressurized tanks). Thanks to the research of the School of Winemaking, this Italian or Charmat Method was fine-tuned to such a degree as to be defined as a specific technique for producing Conegliano Valdobbiadene Prosecco Superiore.
The story of the Denomination continues to the present day, urged on by its success on both the national and international markets.




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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,565
    What's Tao like in time trials? Likely to gain time tomorrow or lose it?
  • Dorset_BoyDorset_Boy Posts: 2,879
    mrb123 said:

    What's Tao like in time trials? Likely to gain time tomorrow or lose it?

    Just needs to swap race numbers with Ganna. No one will notice.
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,565

    mrb123 said:

    What's Tao like in time trials? Likely to gain time tomorrow or lose it?

    Just needs to swap race numbers with Ganna. No one will notice.
    Might need to pull his helmet forward a bit.
  • ProssPross Posts: 23,795
    edited 16 October
    mrb123 said:

    What's Tao like in time trials? Likely to gain time tomorrow or lose it?

    Reasonable

    https://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/tao-geoghegan-hart/statistics/career-points-time-trial

    Edit - he beat Ganna and Bjerg in that Amgen TT where he came third.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    mrb123 said:

    What's Tao like in time trials? Likely to gain time tomorrow or lose it?

    Average. I'd guess a finishing position in the 20s. Of the 11 ahead of him he'll gain time on 6 and lose time on 5
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  • ProssPross Posts: 23,795
    Lost 1.45 to Nibali and aminute to Bilbo Baggins in a similar length TT at the Giro last year but was in a different position then so as always it's hard to judge.
  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,565
    So who do we see moving up in GC tomorrow?
  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 12,610
    mrb123 said:

    So who do we see moving up in GC tomorrow?

    Ganna! 🤣
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    mrb123 said:

    So who do we see moving up in GC tomorrow?


    I think Keldermann could take the jersey. Konrad will do well, Fuglsang for sure, Nibali should gain a bit.
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,651
    Almeida a minute faster than anybody else in his U 23 national TT, last year.
    Kelderman: Good
    Bilbao: Good
    Pozzovivio: at best fair
    Nibali: Fair
    Konrad: think Pozzovivo
    Hindly: Nope
    Majka: Nope plus.
    Masnada: Nope
    Fuglsang: Around the Italian level.
    McNulty: Probably a bit better than GC ranked 4 -11.
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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,565

    Almeida a minute faster than anybody else in his U 23 national TT, last year.
    Kelderman: Good
    Bilbao: Good
    Pozzovivio: at best fair
    Nibali: Fair
    Konrad: think Pozzovivo
    Hindly: Nope
    Majka: Nope plus.
    Masnada: Nope
    Fuglsang: Around the Italian level.
    McNulty: Probably a bit better than GC ranked 4 -11.

    Remember that time trial a few years ago that Pozzovivo absolutely smashed? Might have been in the Tour.
  • ProssPross Posts: 23,795
    Based on the first TT Almeida to extend his lead. Bilbao to lose least from the rest and leapfrog Kelderman. Kelderman, Pozzovivo and Nibali all similar. Basically most of the current positions reflect that initial TT pecking order.
  • RichN95. said:

    mrb123 said:

    So who do we see moving up in GC tomorrow?


    I think Keldermann could take the jersey. Konrad will do well, Fuglsang for sure, Nibali should gain a bit.
    Almeida was decent in the first TT wasn't he? One of the reasons he's in pink rn
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    edited 16 October
    mrb123 said:



    Remember that time trial a few years ago that Pozzovivo absolutely smashed? Might have been in the Tour.

    Third in the 2013 Vuelta behind Martin and Cancellara. He occasionally has a good TT day but that was the high point. He's all over the place form wise. The West Ham of time trialling

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  • mrb123mrb123 Posts: 2,565
    RichN95. said:

    mrb123 said:



    Remember that time trial a few years ago that Pozzovivo absolutely smashed? Might have been in the Tour.

    Third in the 2013 Vuelta behind Martin and Cancellara

    https://cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=24063
    That was the one...
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 8,409
    mrb123 said:

    What's Tao like in time trials? Likely to gain time tomorrow or lose it?

    He can do a half decent tt
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    Ultimately there's no-one in the top 13* you can rely on to be really good and none who are always really bad.

    *13th is @3.04, 14th @5.57 - that's the GC schism
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    edited 16 October

    RichN95. said:

    mrb123 said:

    So who do we see moving up in GC tomorrow?


    I think Keldermann could take the jersey. Konrad will do well, Fuglsang for sure, Nibali should gain a bit.
    Almeida was decent in the first TT wasn't he? One of the reasons he's in pink rn

    That was weird TT though. This one's a long flat one. His TT form is largely unknown though.
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  • ProssPross Posts: 23,795
    RichN95. said:

    RichN95. said:

    mrb123 said:

    So who do we see moving up in GC tomorrow?


    I think Keldermann could take the jersey. Konrad will do well, Fuglsang for sure, Nibali should gain a bit.
    Almeida was decent in the first TT wasn't he? One of the reasons he's in pink rn

    That was weird TT though. This one's a long flat one. His TT form is largely unknown though.
    Tough climb at the start again though.
  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    edited 16 October
    Pross said:


    Tough climb at the start again though.


    But within a long TT. It's only 1km
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,651
    Main Riders of Interest KO times (CET)

    13:00.00 DIBBEN Jon GBR LTS (midday UK)
    13:13.00 DOWSETT Alex GBR ISN
    13:34.00 CAMPENAERTS Victor BEL NTT
    13:37.00 BODNAR Maciej POL BOH
    13:55.00 DENNIS Rohan AUS IGD
    14:11.00 BJERG Mikkel DEN UAD
    14:20.00 GANNA Filippo ITA IGD
    15:05.00 CASTROVIEJO Jonathan ESP IGD
    15:10.00 KNOX James GBR DQS
    15:13.00 PERNSTEINER Hermann AUT TBM
    15:16.00 PEDRERO Antonio ESP MOV
    15:19.00 GEOGHEGAN-HART Tao GBR IGD
    15:22.00 MCNULTY Brandon USA UAD
    15:25.00 FUGLSANG Jakob DEN AST
    15:28.00 MASNADA Fausto ITA DQS
    15:31.00 MAJKA Rafał POL BOH
    15:34.00 HINDLEY Jai AUS SUN
    15:37.00 KONRAD Patrick AUT BOH
    15:40.00 NIBALI Vincenzo ITA TFS
    15:43.00 POZZOVIVO Domenico ITA NTT
    15:46.00 BILBAO Pello ESP TBM
    15:49.00 KELDERMAN Wilco NED SUN
    15:52.00 ALMEIDA João POR DQS
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  • ProssPross Posts: 23,795
    I only noticed Dibben was riding when looking through the results of the first TT yesterday. For some reason I thought he'd quit the WT peloton.
  • No_Ta_DoctorNo_Ta_Doctor Posts: 9,945
    Very little wind today, mainly cross-tail, not set to change much.
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  • ddraverddraver Posts: 20,359
    Putting a TT on a Saturday is just rude...
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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,651
    It is possible that the GC boys could have slightly worse weather.


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  • blazing_saddlesblazing_saddles Posts: 15,651
    A lot of good news coming out of the Giro today, according to our commentators.
    Namely:
    . over 500 extra tests have produced 0 positives.
    . Increased rider protection at the starts and finishes
    . Tifosi have shown improved behaviour
    . Safety improved along the route, including the km banners being moved of roads.
    . After Jonathan Vaughters expressed his desire to end this Giro, his entire team told him to flip off, they wanted to carry on!
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    This can't be right


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  • pblakeneypblakeney Posts: 12,610
    A self employed delivery driver still has targets to meet? 😉
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    I am not sure. You have no chance.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 23,888
    edited 17 October
    Dennis back on form. Ganna took all of 6km to catch his minute man and 7km to catch his two minute man
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  • lettingthedaysgobylettingthedaysgoby Posts: 1,474
    edited 17 October
    Ganna is just a monster.
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