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I doubt you'd have wanted to do a pro race with the ratio jumps it gave though.webboo said:
I had a 28 sprocket on a screw on block before cassettes were invented. 6 speed I think.Pross said:
Wasn't 39x24 about the lowest anyone used back then? I remember a friend who raced at the top level having the Mick taken out of him big time when he turned up at Premier Calendar races with what I guess is now called a super compact chainset and 7-8 speed cassettes didn't allow scope for going much bigger than 24. I think a 26 was the biggest standard road cassette I can recall seeing back then.phreak said:
Didn't Pantani fly up the Mortirolo with a 24 on the back?mididoctors said:Pavel tonkov rode a big gear
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Jeez. I never thought I would want a thread to get back to doping chat.4
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I think the 3 Peaks was a Pro/Am in those days.0
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no fear of the needle in them days. knee popingsalsiccia1 said:"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
I used to use a 42 X 26 over the likes of wrynose. we were clueless back thenwebboo said:
I had a 28 sprocket on a screw on block before cassettes were invented. 6 speed I think.Pross said:
Wasn't 39x24 about the lowest anyone used back then? I remember a friend who raced at the top level having the Mick taken out of him big time when he turned up at Premier Calendar races with what I guess is now called a super compact chainset and 7-8 speed cassettes didn't allow scope for going much bigger than 24. I think a 26 was the biggest standard road cassette I can recall seeing back then.phreak said:
Didn't Pantani fly up the Mortirolo with a 24 on the back?mididoctors said:Pavel tonkov rode a big gear
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
The rear mechs and gear levers couldn't handle the range of movement required I suppose , Maybe it took the Americans and the MTB world to see things differently & not be hidebound by traditions, As a school boy we would ride up winnants pass on a 42x17 or maybe 18 tooth on a regina 5 speed block straight through! Zigzagging , but no walking ever. Haha. Its better now despite what some folks may say imho.0
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Matti66 said:
The rear mechs and gear levers couldn't handle the range of movement required I suppose , Maybe it took the Americans and the MTB world to see things differently & not be hidebound by traditions, As a school boy we would ride up winnants pass on a 42x17 or maybe 18 tooth on a regina 5 speed block straight through! Zigzagging , but no walking ever. Haha. Its better now despite
My old road bike has a 38x28 on the back with a Shimano Arabesque gruppoMatti66 said:The rear mechs and gear levers couldn't handle the range of movement required I suppose , Maybe it took the Americans and the MTB world to see things differently & not be hidebound by traditions, As a school boy we would ride up winnants pass on a 42x17 or maybe 18 tooth on a regina 5 speed block straight through! Zigzagging , but no walking ever. Haha. Its better now despite what some folks may say imho.
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Pantani would never use a 39.mididoctors said:
I used to use a 42 X 26 over the likes of wrynose. we were clueless back thenwebboo said:
I had a 28 sprocket on a screw on block before cassettes were invented. 6 speed I think.Pross said:
Wasn't 39x24 about the lowest anyone used back then? I remember a friend who raced at the top level having the Mick taken out of him big time when he turned up at Premier Calendar races with what I guess is now called a super compact chainset and 7-8 speed cassettes didn't allow scope for going much bigger than 24. I think a 26 was the biggest standard road cassette I can recall seeing back then.phreak said:
Didn't Pantani fly up the Mortirolo with a 24 on the back?mididoctors said:Pavel tonkov rode a big gear
FWIW, I don't think I was any fitter or less fit but all my PBs up the surrey hills were done on a 53-39 front and 11-25 back. When I took some lower gears for a trip to Flanders I never again reached the dizzy heights I had achieved previously.
Presumably it's the bigger gears forced me to get on with it a bit more - a kit solution for a mental problem.0 -
In another life time I rode up Rosedale chimney on 42 x 24. These days I avoid it like the plague even though I have 36 x 30.0
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I realise I might be here taking things even more into the Four Yorshiremen sketchwebboo said:In another life time I rode up Rosedale chimney on 42 x 24. These days I avoid it like the plague even though I have 36 x 30.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHFZBUTA4k
The first Alpine passes I ever rode (Telegraphe, Montgenevre, Sestriere and Larche/Maddelena) I did with a low of 39/28 plus 20 kilo of luggage incl tent & sleeping bag on paniers. (I was given a lift from Valloire up to the top of Galibier).
A few years later I went back to the Alps and as by then I had a family and a car, I didn't need to carry my belongings, just to meet my family at pre-determined destinations, so I opted for a low of 42/24 and it went fine (Madeleine, Glandon, Telegraphe, Galibier, Izouard, Vars and Bonnette/Restefond).
I can't believe it when I look back; in the Alps I now ride a low of 34/28.
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I have a 34 x 32 on mine... I don't really know any different though as I used to MTB and only got a road bike in 2012. I ran a 30 on my light wheels for a while but didn't really notice any difference. My speed on hills is more or less exclusively determined by my fitness...
I can see that bigger gears would mean you would need to push harder in some cases, but for me full gas is full gas... Would need to do something a bit more scientific with a powermeter to actually check.0 -
You were looky. T'cassette on my first bike were hewed out of a single block of granite and had 3 cogs - 11, 7 and 3...1
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luxury .bompington said:You were looky. T'cassette on my first bike were hewed out of a single block of granite and had 3 cogs - 11, 7 and 3...
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
The fact the pros have dropped gear inches etc .bobmcstuff said:I have a 34 x 32 on mine... I don't really know any different though as I used to MTB and only got a road bike in 2012. I ran a 30 on my light wheels for a while but didn't really notice any difference. My speed on hills is more or less exclusively determined by my fitness...
I can see that bigger gears would mean you would need to push harder in some cases, but for me full gas is full gas... Would need to do something a bit more scientific with a powermeter to actually check."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
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Who doesn't.Not a Giro Hero!1
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There was also the thing about trying not to use your biggest sprocket as you needed to save it for when things got really tough. However when they did get tough you were out of saddle and unable to let go to reach your down tube lever.
Makes you wonder why we didn’t use drugs Or maybe we did as we were clearly off heads then.0 -
These days I can grind to halt what ever gear i'm in...webboo said:There was also the thing about trying not to use your biggest sprocket as you needed to save it for when things got really tough. However when they did get tough you were out of saddle and unable to let go to reach your down tube lever.
Makes you wonder why we didn’t use drugs Or maybe we did as we were clearly off heads then.0 -
Now you mention it.darkhairedlord said:
These days I can grind to halt what ever gear i'm in...webboo said:There was also the thing about trying not to use your biggest sprocket as you needed to save it for when things got really tough. However when they did get tough you were out of saddle and unable to let go to reach your down tube lever.
Makes you wonder why we didn’t use drugs Or maybe we did as we were clearly off heads then.0 -
sounds like the new Campag gravel gruppo.bompington said:You were looky. T'cassette on my first bike were hewed out of a single block of granite and had 3 cogs - 11, 7 and 3...
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You mean the one that they actually advertise that you have to get off and push?davidof said:
sounds like the new Campag gravel gruppo.bompington said:You were looky. T'cassette on my first bike were hewed out of a single block of granite and had 3 cogs - 11, 7 and 3...
Perfect for this tangent! 🤣🤣🤣The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Yet again I open this thread to see if there's news on the Arkea investigation and find it's just more twattery about gears. Find another thread please guys.Warning No formatter is installed for the format2
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Maybe there is just no story to tell.No_Ta_Doctor said:Yet again I open this thread to see if there's news on the Arkea investigation and find it's just more twattery about gears. Find another thread please guys.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
There probably isn't, in which case the thread sinks down the board and dies. Rather than popping to the top like something happened.pblakeney said:
Maybe there is just no story to tell.No_Ta_Doctor said:Yet again I open this thread to see if there's news on the Arkea investigation and find it's just more twattery about gears. Find another thread please guys.
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Hmmm. Wonder what's stopping that from happening. 😉No_Ta_Doctor said:
There probably isn't, in which case the thread sinks down the board and dies. Rather than popping to the top like something happened.pblakeney said:
Maybe there is just no story to tell.No_Ta_Doctor said:Yet again I open this thread to see if there's news on the Arkea investigation and find it's just more twattery about gears. Find another thread please guys.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
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