Rim vs. disc brakes - which will win most stages in TdF 2020?

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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908

    If you've got the mechs in the right position you should be able to get a rim brake wheel in with one hand holding the bike with the other in a few seconds - then just whip up the QR.

    this but some tight frames are problematic
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647

    dish_dash said:

    I usually turn mine upside down... But then I am usually standing at the side of the road, have to take the wheel off and then change the inner tube before I can refit the wheel...

    Ruins the handlbars / shifters etc.
    And so if you're on the side of the road what are you meant to do with the bike while you're actually sorting the puncture out. Leave it sitting on its mech, or on its side? In my mind the hoods and saddle are the safest things to leave the bike sitting on...

    You've got strange set up if the bike is actually sitting on its handlebars.
    Lay it on the side is what I do.... or against a wall or lamppost or whatever.
    IMHO chances of damage to bike frame far greater by putting bike on its side or leaning it without a wheel in, than turning it over.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    dish_dash said:

    dish_dash said:

    I usually turn mine upside down... But then I am usually standing at the side of the road, have to take the wheel off and then change the inner tube before I can refit the wheel...

    Ruins the handlbars / shifters etc.
    And so if you're on the side of the road what are you meant to do with the bike while you're actually sorting the puncture out. Leave it sitting on its mech, or on its side? In my mind the hoods and saddle are the safest things to leave the bike sitting on...

    You've got strange set up if the bike is actually sitting on its handlebars.
    Lay it on the side is what I do.... or against a wall or lamppost or whatever.
    IMHO chances of damage to bike frame far greater by putting bike on its side or leaning it without a wheel in, than turning it over.
    I guess I am more preoccupied with keeping the bits I am in contact with nice....
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647

    dish_dash said:

    dish_dash said:

    I usually turn mine upside down... But then I am usually standing at the side of the road, have to take the wheel off and then change the inner tube before I can refit the wheel...

    Ruins the handlbars / shifters etc.
    And so if you're on the side of the road what are you meant to do with the bike while you're actually sorting the puncture out. Leave it sitting on its mech, or on its side? In my mind the hoods and saddle are the safest things to leave the bike sitting on...

    You've got strange set up if the bike is actually sitting on its handlebars.
    Lay it on the side is what I do.... or against a wall or lamppost or whatever.
    IMHO chances of damage to bike frame far greater by putting bike on its side or leaning it without a wheel in, than turning it over.
    I guess I am more preoccupied with keeping the bits I am in contact with nice....
    :D Lord know what kinda ground you're putting the saddle/bars on...

    Anyway, just switch to tubeless and you'll never have to deal with this problem anyway ;)
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    Never is a big word
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,557

    dish_dash said:

    dish_dash said:

    I usually turn mine upside down... But then I am usually standing at the side of the road, have to take the wheel off and then change the inner tube before I can refit the wheel...

    Ruins the handlbars / shifters etc.
    And so if you're on the side of the road what are you meant to do with the bike while you're actually sorting the puncture out. Leave it sitting on its mech, or on its side? In my mind the hoods and saddle are the safest things to leave the bike sitting on...

    You've got strange set up if the bike is actually sitting on its handlebars.
    Lay it on the side is what I do.... or against a wall or lamppost or whatever.
    IMHO chances of damage to bike frame far greater by putting bike on its side or leaning it without a wheel in, than turning it over.
    I guess I am more preoccupied with keeping the bits I am in contact with nice....
    What do you do, drag it along the ground when upside down?
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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,320

    If you've got the mechs in the right position you should be able to get a rim brake wheel in with one hand holding the bike with the other in a few seconds - then just whip up the QR.

    Correct for a wheel swap.
    Some have moved on to a tube replacement though.
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,435

    dish_dash said:

    dish_dash said:

    I usually turn mine upside down... But then I am usually standing at the side of the road, have to take the wheel off and then change the inner tube before I can refit the wheel...

    Ruins the handlbars / shifters etc.
    And so if you're on the side of the road what are you meant to do with the bike while you're actually sorting the puncture out. Leave it sitting on its mech, or on its side? In my mind the hoods and saddle are the safest things to leave the bike sitting on...

    You've got strange set up if the bike is actually sitting on its handlebars.
    Lay it on the side is what I do.... or against a wall or lamppost or whatever.
    IMHO chances of damage to bike frame far greater by putting bike on its side or leaning it without a wheel in, than turning it over.
    I guess I am more preoccupied with keeping the bits I am in contact with nice....
    What do you do, drag it along the ground when upside down?
    I checked my bike, the plastic bits on the top of the shifter are a bit scuffed (although they have been in at least 2 crashes) and the saddle shows no sign of damage. No damage to the actual hoods (i.e., the bits I am actually in contact with).

    This doesn't happen very often either, I have a stand at home so it's only when I get a puncture during a ride. Can't remember the last one.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    edited September 2020
    If you turn your bike upside down it causes your headset to wear quicker ...everyone knows that along with odd numbered tooth chain rings are faster even for the same gear ratio
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • One benefit of tubeless is that repairing a puncture by using a tyre worm doesn't require wheel removal and hence you keep the bike up the right way.

    No more scuffed hoods and saddle although your frame may now be covered in sealant...
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,104
    edited September 2020
    pblakeney said:

    If you've got the mechs in the right position you should be able to get a rim brake wheel in with one hand holding the bike with the other in a few seconds - then just whip up the QR.

    Correct for a wheel swap.
    Some have moved on to a tube replacement though.
    Yeah I admit I normally try to hook the saddle on a fence/gate etc to keep it right way up but the mech off the ground. In truth if you can't do that there's not a lot of difference in carefully laying it down or turning it over - I'd usually lay it down - then pick it up to put the wheel back once puncture fixed.
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