Neither. And it won't be the bikes either, it will be the riders.
That's blindingly obvious (the performance differences are insignificant at pro level, possible faster wheel changes for rim brakes aside). But It'll be a finely balanced outcome this year dependent on relative dominance of J-V, Ineos, AG2R etc in stage wins, as well as the individual choices of likely stage winners from other teams.
Neither. And it won't be the bikes either, it will be the riders.
That's blindingly obvious (the performance differences are insignificant at pro level, possible faster wheel changes for rim brakes aside). But It'll be a finely balanced outcome this year dependent on relative dominance of J-V, Ineos, AG2R etc in stage wins, as well as the individual choices of likely stage winners from other teams.
Why ask the question then? Don't say fun. I'd be disappointed in you if you think that debate is fun.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Should have remembered you're all a bunch of tossers on this subforum.
So much for a bit of fun...
Yeah but 5lavging off dumb topics is part of the fun .. go rim brakes
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
Neither. And it won't be the bikes either, it will be the riders.
That's blindingly obvious (the performance differences are insignificant at pro level, possible faster wheel changes for rim brakes aside). But It'll be a finely balanced outcome this year dependent on relative dominance of J-V, Ineos, AG2R etc in stage wins, as well as the individual choices of likely stage winners from other teams.
Why ask the question then? Don't say fun. I'd be disappointed in you if you think that debate is fun.
Oh OK, because I'm a twisted obsessive with a vested interest..
Neither. And it won't be the bikes either, it will be the riders.
That's blindingly obvious (the performance differences are insignificant at pro level, possible faster wheel changes for rim brakes aside). But It'll be a finely balanced outcome this year dependent on relative dominance of J-V, Ineos, AG2R etc in stage wins, as well as the individual choices of likely stage winners from other teams.
Why ask the question then? Don't say fun. I'd be disappointed in you if you think that debate is fun.
Oh OK, because I'm a twisted obsessive with a vested interest..
Oh OK, that makes more sense then.
The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Seems like more teams are shifting to the MTB discs at the tour this year instead of Dura ace rotors!? Nobody know why however.
I have a feeling it's something wrong with the road discs. - mainly shimano. My Dura ace discs rub after short but hard braking. I wonder if the design is flawed and bends too much under heat?
Seems like more teams are shifting to the MTB discs at the tour this year instead of Dura ace rotors!? Nobody know why however.
I have a feeling it's something wrong with the road discs. - mainly shimano. My Dura ace discs rub after short but hard braking. I wonder if the design is flawed and bends too much under heat?
Interesting. Is it just different rotors or calipers too ?
Seems like more teams are shifting to the MTB discs at the tour this year instead of Dura ace rotors!? Nobody know why however.
I have a feeling it's something wrong with the road discs. - mainly shimano. My Dura ace discs rub after short but hard braking. I wonder if the design is flawed and bends too much under heat?
Which ones do you think they're using then? XTR rotors?
I can see rim brakes sticking around. There doesn't seem to be a performance advantage downhill for discs but there is one uphill for rim brakes.
Despite manufacturers pushing discs the extra complexity, weight and expense is a genuine disadvantage for those of us who buy and maintain our own bikes and aren't constrained by the uci weight limit. Ok so you don't wear out your rims - does anyone actually get through many rims on their "best" bike? With direct mount calipers we can even have wide tyres without discs now.
i will go disc I suspect cos if I get a new frame its likely to be disc. i like the lack of rim wear. i feel underwhelmed by it thou.
TdG doesnt ride discs or electric gears bike packing. not like he couldn't if he wanted
"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
I can see rim brakes sticking around. There doesn't seem to be a performance advantage downhill for discs but there is one uphill for rim brakes.
Despite manufacturers pushing discs the extra complexity, weight and expense is a genuine disadvantage for those of us who buy and maintain our own bikes and aren't constrained by the uci weight limit. Ok so you don't wear out your rims - does anyone actually get through many rims on their "best" bike? With direct mount calipers we can even have wide tyres without discs now.
The biggest advantage seems to me to be the ability to do really fast wheel changes and to take neutral service wheels
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Don't say fun. I'd be disappointed in you if you think that debate is fun.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
I am not sure. You have no chance.
Nobody know why however.
I have a feeling it's something wrong with the road discs. - mainly shimano.
My Dura ace discs rub after short but hard braking. I wonder if the design is flawed and bends too much under heat?
Can it really be weight!? Weight wise it means nothing as it's about 20g and the bikes are on the UCI limit almost anyway.
The DA and Ultegra discs are designed for road as the ice tech fins are much bigger to offload the heat generated with high speed braking.
Despite manufacturers pushing discs the extra complexity, weight and expense is a genuine disadvantage for those of us who buy and maintain our own bikes and aren't constrained by the uci weight limit. Ok so you don't wear out your rims - does anyone actually get through many rims on their "best" bike? With direct mount calipers we can even have wide tyres without discs now.
TdG doesnt ride discs or electric gears bike packing. not like he couldn't if he wanted
- @ddraver
- @ddraver