Tour de l’Ain and Critérium du Dauphiné 2020 *Spoilers*

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    MST?
  • mididoctors
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    Scott
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  • mididoctors
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    Whatever there dodad is
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  • Is MST bothering contesting the tour? Or on don't come good in the third secret sauce stratergy

    I believe they have already stated that they aren't.
    Something said about targeting stages with Adam and having a crack at the Giro with Simon......
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  • gweeds
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    Roglic looked barely out of breath at the end there.
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  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    All a bit crap that. Glad that Formolo won.
  • andyrac
    andyrac Posts: 1,197
    Ineos remind me of a fancied horse for the Derby running poorly in one of the trials.....whereas Jumbo-Visma appear to cruising.
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  • RichN95.
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    andyrac said:

    Ineos remind me of a fancied horse for the Derby running poorly in one of the trials.....whereas Jumbo-Visma appear to cruising.

    Ha. Maybe they’re rigging the betting. As soon as Froome drops to 33/1, Ratcliffe’s going stick a billion on him.
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  • Primoz Roglic results this season: 1-2-2-1-1-1-9-1-2.
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  • m.r.m.
    m.r.m. Posts: 3,473

    Conditions were really desperate for Dan.


    Great shot if it weren't for the car.
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  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Slovenian National Champs, Tour de l'Ain (including GC) and so far in the Dauphine? Impressive but not bonkers I'd have thought, especially as his winning margins haven't been huge.
  • DeadCalm
    DeadCalm Posts: 4,249
    Bernal's form appears to be in decline since Occitanie. Froome had already been dropped from the lead group by the time I managed to start watching and Thomas hasn't shown much so far. Sivakov's form seems to be following the same trajectory as Bernal's. Could there be an explanation for this (some super hard training camp designed to get them in peak shape for the TDF for example) or are Ineos about to have their worst Tour since 2014? Personally, at the moment, I think it is unlikely that they will even have anyone on the podium but they do have a habit of coming good when they need to.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    I’m not expecting it to be so one sided in the Tour but it is nice to see a race with the big names in where Ineos are on the back foot, even when they’re probably not trying to win in like they normally are.
  • robnewcastle
    robnewcastle Posts: 241
    edited August 2020

    I’m not expecting it to be so one sided in the Tour but it is nice to see a race with the big names in where Ineos are on the back foot, even when they’re probably not trying to win in like they normally are.

    Completely agree, there needed to be a change in the narrative. It sets things up nicely for the tour really.
  • kingstongraham
    kingstongraham Posts: 28,119
    Last year Roglic won the UAE tour, Tirreno Adriatic and Romandie before not winning the Giro.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253

    Last year Roglic won the UAE tour, Tirreno Adriatic and Romandie before not winning the Giro.


    The counterpoint is that the last first time Tour winner (before DQs) who didn't come in with a lot of winning momentum was Carlos Sastre.
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  • kingstongraham
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    RichN95. said:

    Last year Roglic won the UAE tour, Tirreno Adriatic and Romandie before not winning the Giro.


    The counterpoint is that the last first time Tour winner (before DQs) who didn't come in with a lot of winning momentum was Carlos Sastre.
    Just saying he was winning without looking like he was trying before his first GT last year, so nothing is nailed on. It's possible he might run out of steam. His team looks way stronger than he had in the Giro though.
  • RichN95.
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    The standard disclaimer applies. This is not an normal season
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  • RichN95. said:

    Last year Roglic won the UAE tour, Tirreno Adriatic and Romandie before not winning the Giro.


    The counterpoint is that the last first time Tour winner (before DQs) who didn't come in with a lot of winning momentum was Carlos Sastre.
    Just saying he was winning without looking like he was trying before his first GT last year, so nothing is nailed on. It's possible he might run out of steam. His team looks way stronger than he had in the Giro though.
    His team is also way stronger but I don’t believe everything is clear cut yet for the tour particularly because of the abnormal season factor mentioned above. People coming in from all sorts of different training blocks/altitude camps. I think there’ll be some surprises at the tour still.
  • rick_chasey
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    RichN95. said:

    The standard disclaimer applies. This is not an normal season

    No and they may not even finish the Tour.

    Get your winning and your lead in while you can.
  • RichN95. said:

    The standard disclaimer applies. This is not an normal season

    No and they may not even finish the Tour.

    Get your winning and your lead in while you can.
    Given Jumbo's luck when it comes to winning big, Roglic will probably be 5 minutes up, then the race gets cancelled on the first rest day.
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  • pblakeney
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    RichN95. said:

    The standard disclaimer applies. This is not an normal season

    No and they may not even finish the Tour.

    Get your winning and your lead in while you can.
    Given Jumbo's luck when it comes to winning big, Roglic will probably be 5 minutes up, then the race gets cancelled on the first rest day.
    Wouldn't that mean a Roglic win?
    Although there would always be the asterix next to it.
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  • pblakeney said:

    RichN95. said:

    The standard disclaimer applies. This is not an normal season

    No and they may not even finish the Tour.

    Get your winning and your lead in while you can.
    Given Jumbo's luck when it comes to winning big, Roglic will probably be 5 minutes up, then the race gets cancelled on the first rest day.
    Wouldn't that mean a Roglic win?
    Although there would always be the asterix next to it.
    Winning what though?
    Can a 9 stage race be considered a GT?
    Some folks thought Bernal's win last year was by default and that only lost one stage finish and one stage start.
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  • pblakeney
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    edited August 2020

    pblakeney said:

    RichN95. said:

    The standard disclaimer applies. This is not an normal season

    No and they may not even finish the Tour.

    Get your winning and your lead in while you can.
    Given Jumbo's luck when it comes to winning big, Roglic will probably be 5 minutes up, then the race gets cancelled on the first rest day.
    Wouldn't that mean a Roglic win?
    Although there would always be the asterix next to it.
    Winning what though?
    Can a 9 stage race be considered a GT?
    Some folks thought Bernal's win last year was by default and that only lost one stage finish and one stage start.
    I *think* that has been decided to be the way to declare the winner of this year's TdF, should it happen. Two ways to play it.
    1. Decide that if it doesn't finish then it's not real, although the record will say otherwise.
    2. Go full gas from the start in case it does happen.

    Could be a good race if No.2 is implemented.
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  • 50x11
    50x11 Posts: 408
    Bernal won't race today. Has a back injury.
  • rick_chasey
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    50x11 said:

    Bernal won't race today. Has a back injury.

    Eek
  • RichN95.
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    50x11 said:

    Bernal won't race today. Has a back injury.


    Injured it carrying his teammates?
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  • I think Bernal riding these 5 mountain finishes off the back of l'Ain and Occitanie is a bridge too far.
    Think he's knackered.

    Intimated that maybe he should DNF this race, yesterday.
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  • ddraver
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    edited August 2020
    Ugh

    A lot of shoulder to dislocate too