Any cricket lovers on here?
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This match is ridiculous.
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I have changed my mind from it being boring to being brilliant :D
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Despite being the 4th highest total it wasn't even in the top 1000 longest innings, I have just read.
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You have to hand it to McCullum and Stokes, what they have done with the England test set up has been remarkable. Yes, their will be those who have been critical when we have thrown the odd match away with some daft batting performances in particular, but on the whole this team has produced some amazing stuff, and brought in a raft of talented young players. I don't think many of us that watch cricket would ever have thought any England side would be viewed as playing the most exciting test cricket around.
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Abrar Ahmed isn't here either so we might only need the 4 more wickets today...
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3...
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The "elephant in the room" is that the thrown away tests cost England the Ashes, which is the only test contest for England that really means anything, for historical reasons.
But on a lighter note, both Root and Brook will be kicking themselves for giving their wickets away cheaply when looking set for a decent score.
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I wouldn't necessarily say it was the batting as a whole in the Ashes, we obviously had some poor individual mistakes, but no real collapses. I think it was a combo of some individual mistakes, poor player selection (Bairstow) and a few tactical errors that costs us the first two tests.
I was thinking more the final three tests in India, where we had one innings per test with a score under 200 that really cost us. Those were team collapses and some really poor batting which really handed India the last three matches.
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All will be forgotten after The Ashes in Oz next winter. And if England wins, all will be forgiven too!
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My favourite stat today in terms of scoring rate was that Pakistan's total innings was 149 overs long. After 149 overs of their innings, England had scored 259 more runs! 1.73 RPO greater.
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Yeah both innings about 150 overs but England with nearly 270 more runs :D
Apparently there has never been an innings of more than 100 overs with less than 3 maidens in it - until England's, where there was only one maiden in 150 overs...
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Wrapped up nicely this morning :)
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I'm just watching the TdF Netflix thing and Tom Pidcock is the voice double for Joe Root. Never noticed that before.
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I've also noticed that you never see Tom Pidcock and Alex Yee in the same room together.
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Nor Marty Feldman.
Go figure.
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I knew I could place him
Shaheen Shah Afridi
Gary from Team America
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90 overs in a day. Incredible stuff.
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blimey, I take 10 minutes to make a brew and all hell lets loose
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Another excellent match - still anybody's game. Every time there seems to be a decisive bit of momentum one way, something else happens.
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NX are 67/0 in reply to India's 46.
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Oof - two drops in an over. Pendulum swinging a long way towards a Pakistan win with a 200 run lead and 5 wickets remaining.
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Pakistan's to lose now, although if any England team were ever going to chase it it would be this lot!
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Fair enough, but if they'd lost the toss it would have been a very different game...
I don't think a long term strategy based on doctoring the pitch, winning the toss, and picking 7 spinners is really going to fix anything for them.
Guess we can expect another turner in Rawalpindi
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I'm not sure "doctoring" the pitch is really fair - I'd rather they use this one which had a bit of interest in it to the original plan to use the next one across which would probably be another road.
It's not like it disintegrated, just started taking spin.
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Preparing a pitch to suit your strengths / other side's limitations feels perfectly reasonable to me. Let's face it we have 'English conditions' in virtually all home Tests that favour English bowlers. It's what makes the sport interesting.
Controversial question - should they have left Stokes out after the previous Test? Did he improve the team?
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When the teams were named someone on the commentary said that it's like showing up to a party and one person is in black tie, and another is in fancy dress. One of you has made a big mistake, but you'll only find out which one later.
I think having another batter was the right call - maybe Rehan Ahmed instead of Potts would have made a difference.
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He was our top scorer seconds innings I think.
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Yep but arguably it was too late by then, he only scored 1 in the 1st innings. I didn't follow the match but it doesn't look like he contributed much with the ball. It's always a big risk to leave him out but if he had been anyone else I don't think he'd have been brought into the team.
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Well, doctored is a strong word, but it was definitely a very unusual move. There's a difference between preparing a pitch to suit your strengths (normal, expected) and reusing an old wicket in back-to-back tests (which is unprecedented) then picking 7 spinners! Seems like a pretty high risk strategy to me because if they had lost the toss they would have very likely lost the game, as you'd have backed England to make a pretty decent total while it was still holding together.
Apparently, the first test wicket was also prepared to avoid a loss as well (basically by forcing a draw), so they just tried another option.
I also would have said road=boring, however the first test was quite interesting as it looked like a nailed on draw until suddenly it didn't. I am not sure that having a test essentially decided at the toss is a that much preferable to what happened in the first test, although it is something which is always going to happen - it's not like it's the first or last time the toss will be essentially deciding the test.
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I recommend watching the India New Zealand first test if you can, India skittled for 46 😁
There's some clips of the opening spell floating around, the ball was absolutely hooping and jumping off the surface as well, quite remarkable. And India had won the toss as well.
IND 46 all out and currently 216/2, NZ 402 all out.
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