Anti-doping agencies killed cycling
When I was a kid, cycling was huge. Everybody knew Lance Armstrong.
As a kid, even I knew everybody was jacked up on drugs. I did not need to see test results or confessions to know this as their performances were inhuman. But it was awesome to see.
Lance Armstrong never tested positive and he was bringing in huge amount of money to cycling. He was a celebrity. But then due to “ego” of agencies, they really felt the need to bring Armstrong down rather than leaving him in glory. Bringing down Armstrong also killed cycling.
The post-Armstrong era is quite weak as teams struggle with finances. Cycling is now also a niche sport. Only a few people know who Egan Bernal is for example, despite being the reigning TdF winner. I also have to explain to people who Chris Froome is and he is the currently biggest star in the sport.
So congrats. In the end, cycling only hurt themselves.
Let’s take sprinting for example. Sprinting was not as popular anymore until Usain Bolt arrived. He was an big international star and he made sprinting great again.
However he was definetly also on some shit, just like his other competitors. They run faster than known dopers. But he was good for the sport and killing Bolt would have killed sprinting. So they were smart not to bring down Bolt. Everybody makes a lot of money and sprinting has grown after Bolt quit.
Taking guys down like Ronaldo, Messi, .... , is also a suicide move for soccer. So you will not see it happen.
In the end, everybody in pro sport is on something as every marginal gains counts. You got be naive to think other wise.
As a kid, even I knew everybody was jacked up on drugs. I did not need to see test results or confessions to know this as their performances were inhuman. But it was awesome to see.
Lance Armstrong never tested positive and he was bringing in huge amount of money to cycling. He was a celebrity. But then due to “ego” of agencies, they really felt the need to bring Armstrong down rather than leaving him in glory. Bringing down Armstrong also killed cycling.
The post-Armstrong era is quite weak as teams struggle with finances. Cycling is now also a niche sport. Only a few people know who Egan Bernal is for example, despite being the reigning TdF winner. I also have to explain to people who Chris Froome is and he is the currently biggest star in the sport.
So congrats. In the end, cycling only hurt themselves.
Let’s take sprinting for example. Sprinting was not as popular anymore until Usain Bolt arrived. He was an big international star and he made sprinting great again.
However he was definetly also on some shit, just like his other competitors. They run faster than known dopers. But he was good for the sport and killing Bolt would have killed sprinting. So they were smart not to bring down Bolt. Everybody makes a lot of money and sprinting has grown after Bolt quit.
Taking guys down like Ronaldo, Messi, .... , is also a suicide move for soccer. So you will not see it happen.
In the end, everybody in pro sport is on something as every marginal gains counts. You got be naive to think other wise.
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Welcome to 2020. What's it like in 2013 where you are?2
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Given up on the triathlete hero debate then?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
You should read the "Secret Race" and you'll have a different opinion of Mr Armstrong. I get that nearly all the riders were doping, they weren't all such grade A Cnuts though.0
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In a world where Christian Coleman is a big name because sprinting is more popular than ever.0
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Everybody knows Lance Armstrong now too, just not for cycling.zest28 said:When I was a kid, cycling was huge. Everybody knew Lance Armstrong.
As a kid, even I knew everybody was jacked up on drugs.........
....In the end, everybody in pro sport is on something as every marginal gains counts. You got be naive to think other wise.
You've got to be naive to think anybody on here didn't have a good old chuckle at your post.
Thanks for that."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
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Go and troll somewhere else you child.Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.0 -
Nope, I am still disappointed how weak some pro riders are. Tom DuMoulin was complaining the other day that everybody was cheating with their power meters as 250W on average is only what the best can do according to him?pblakeney said:Given up on the triathlete hero debate then?
Yet, 250W is nothing. Even juniors can do this type of power.
No wonder cyclocross riders like Mathieu van der Poel can beat grand Tour winners like Tom DuMoulin as he is able to deliver 400W on average instead of 250W.
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Troll trollin' cos that's how he rolls.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
To be honest he doesn't come across as clever enough to be a trollpblakeney said:Troll trollin' cos that's how he rolls.
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It's 2020. These things are dead because of the drug agencies... not getting a vaccine out quick enough.orraloon said:
Well there used to be these things called Spring Classics, then there were Grand Tours... oh no, hang on a minute...ddraver said:genuine question....what exactly did it kill about cycling?
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This thread is ..... *chef's kiss*Warning No formatter is installed for the format0
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You are Prendiville and I claim my £5Fat chopper. Some racing. Some testing. Some crashing.
Specialising in Git Daaahns and Cafs. Norvern Munkey/Transplanted Laaandoner.0 -
When I was a kid cycling was a minority sport and no-one really knew Brian Robinson or Shay Elliott. Lance Armstrong wasn't even born.zest28 said:When I was a kid, cycling was huge. Everybody knew Lance Armstrong.
Just saying
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I don't know where to start on this oneIt's only a bit of sport, Mun. Relax and enjoy the racing.0
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When I was a kid the Tour de France was one of Channel 4’s novelty foreign sports alongside NFL, Sumo and Kabbadihommelbier said:
When I was a kid cycling was a minority sport and no-one really knew Brian Robinson or Shay Elliott. Lance Armstrong wasn't even born.zest28 said:When I was a kid, cycling was huge. Everybody knew Lance Armstrong.
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When I was a kid the Tour de France was in black and white.1
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When I was a kid cycle races weren't on the television. Ever.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
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Television? We couldn’t imagine such a thing. We’d wait a week to read the results in a magazinepblakeney said:When I was a kid cycle races weren't on the television. Ever.
A magazine? A luxury. If I wanted to know if Coppi had won I’d have to wait for the carrier pigeon.
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Do you have a source for this load of shite?zest28 said:
Nope, I am still disappointed how weak some pro riders are. Tom DuMoulin was complaining the other day that everybody was cheating with their power meters as 250W on average is only what the best can do according to him?pblakeney said:Given up on the triathlete hero debate then?
Yet, 250W is nothing. Even juniors can do this type of power.
No wonder cyclocross riders like Mathieu van der Poel can beat grand Tour winners like Tom DuMoulin as he is able to deliver 400W on average instead of 250W.
This is some pretty great trolling tbf.
Also when did his name gain a capital M?0 -
Well...bobmcstuff said:
Do you have a source for this load of shite?zest28 said:
Nope, I am still disappointed how weak some pro riders are. Tom DuMoulin was complaining the other day that everybody was cheating with their power meters as 250W on average is only what the best can do according to him?pblakeney said:Given up on the triathlete hero debate then?
Yet, 250W is nothing. Even juniors can do this type of power.
No wonder cyclocross riders like Mathieu van der Poel can beat grand Tour winners like Tom DuMoulin as he is able to deliver 400W on average instead of 250W.
This is some pretty great trolling tbf.
Also when did his name gain a capital M?
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tom-dumoulin-virtual-race-results-say-nothing/
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When I was a kid, we went to the library 4 miles away to read Cycling magazine. It covered British time-trialling....
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When I was a kid you used to get time trial results in the national press every Monday morning.0
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Ah, so he just misrepresented it then.kingstongraham said:
Well...bobmcstuff said:
Do you have a source for this load of shite?zest28 said:
Nope, I am still disappointed how weak some pro riders are. Tom DuMoulin was complaining the other day that everybody was cheating with their power meters as 250W on average is only what the best can do according to him?pblakeney said:Given up on the triathlete hero debate then?
Yet, 250W is nothing. Even juniors can do this type of power.
No wonder cyclocross riders like Mathieu van der Poel can beat grand Tour winners like Tom DuMoulin as he is able to deliver 400W on average instead of 250W.
This is some pretty great trolling tbf.
Also when did his name gain a capital M?
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tom-dumoulin-virtual-race-results-say-nothing/0 -
I mean to be fair, he did break a sweat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_Xx0eDlNY 0
