Would you travel to Italy with your family in 4 weeks?

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  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,484
    rjsterry said:

    pblakeney said:

    rjsterry said:

    It would be like visiting a British seaside town in January.

    Bliss. I'd much prefer that to a bank holiday weekend.
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  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,700
    Looks like the decision might have been taken out of your hands... https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/09/coronavirus-live-updates-outbreak-italy-lockdown-quarantine-uk-usa-america-australia-recession-fears-update-latest-news
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  • kingstongraham
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    Wow. Are those measures going to be heading our way?
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,801
    edited March 2020
    kingstongraham said:

    Wow. Are those measures going to be heading our way?

    Possibly, although each country's response will be different.

    A mate of mine who's a NHS consultant specialising in respiratory problems in one of the big London hospitals said today that he expects to get hit with a lot of work in about 3 weeks time.
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  • briantrumpet
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    kingstongraham said:

    Wow. Are those measures going to be heading our way?


    This is a great bit of writing from John Crace. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/09/johnsons-coronavirus-press-conference-is-anything-but-reassuring

    To be fair to Johnson (not something I'm wont to do), we're in uncharted waters: at one extreme there's immediate total lockdown, at the other extreme, there's the "Everything will be fine - carry on!" approach. Somewhere between those two extremes is (probably) the right reaction, here, for now, but given how quickly things can change (as with Italy), and the risks of delaying action, I'd not be wanting to be in the Government's shoes.
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  • pblakeney
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    Italy is now in complete shutdown. We are moving forward on hopes and dreams.
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  • briantrumpet
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    pblakeney said:

    Italy is now in complete shutdown. We are moving forward on hopes and dreams.


    And probably thoughts and prayers in America, even though there hasn't been a mass shooting there for a day or two.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    The stories coming out of the Italian hospitals in the epicentre of the outbreaks sound pretty bleak.

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  • TheBigBean
    TheBigBean Posts: 22,024
    It looks like opinion has turned on BR.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    It looks like opinion has turned on BR.

    An amazing about turn in four days
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    TheBigBean said:

    It looks like opinion has turned on BR.

    The prospect of overwhelmed hospitals, huge amounts of people in “isolation” and the subsequent economic catastrophe that will create isn’t to be sniffed at.
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  • TheBigBean
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    rick_chasey said:

    TheBigBean said:

    It looks like opinion has turned on BR.

    The prospect of overwhelmed hospitals, huge amounts of people in “isolation” and the subsequent economic catastrophe that will create isn’t to be sniffed at.
    It wasn't two weeks ago either. A cursory look at any stat or any interview with anybody who had been to china would have led to some bleak views.

    I've genuinely been fascinated by the "it's just flu" brigade. Someone even calculated the odds of dying from it as on a par with winning the lottery
  • Longshot
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    briantrumpet said:

    Looks like the decision might have been taken out of your hands... https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/09/coronavirus-live-updates-outbreak-italy-lockdown-quarantine-uk-usa-america-australia-recession-fears-update-latest-news

    Yes, indeed. At least this way we should be covered by insurance on recovering [most of] the cost.
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  • capt_slog
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    I too would wonder if there was any point in going somewhere that was effectively shut.

    There's also the sense that you are just adding to the problem if you do go.


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  • Longshot
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    capt_slog said:

    I too would wonder if there was any point in going somewhere that was effectively shut.

    There's also the sense that you are just adding to the problem if you do go.


    Indeed. There were a lot of factors for us, even before the latest news. My wife is a teacher and I'm not sure how popular she would be at work knowingly travelling to a country where, upon your return, you are likely to be self isolating for 2 weeks.
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  • elbowloh
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    In the UK at least, fewer new cases were reported yesterday than the day before. A sign of it being contained or just a blip?
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  • coopster_the_1st
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    Longshot said:

    capt_slog said:

    I too would wonder if there was any point in going somewhere that was effectively shut.

    There's also the sense that you are just adding to the problem if you do go.


    Indeed. There were a lot of factors for us, even before the latest news. My wife is a teacher and I'm not sure how popular she would be at work knowingly travelling to a country where, upon your return, you are likely to be self isolating for 2 weeks.
    Unlucky with your holiday but events have moved on.

    When I commented I was of the view that life should go on as normally as possible but the decision has been taken out of your hands. Not going on holiday has a knock on effect to many people, some may lose their jobs, etc

  • Longshot
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    FCO are now advising against all but essential travel to Italy so that's helpful from an insurance point of view.

    Not sure if I'll bother trying to book an alternative holiday anywhere else.
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  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    We're due to go off skiing in the next couple of weeks - not to a known virus area though ...
    My view is that we go - we're as likely to catch it there as here (a few reported cases near where I work) - and whilst I know it'll be a pain self isolating (should we catch something) - there's a good chance we won't catch anything there.
    The issue would be seeing (or not) our older parents.

    Of course, everything could change and the governments could decide to ban all travel.... then I don't have any choice.
  • TheBigBean
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    slowbike said:


    The issue would be seeing (or not) our older parents.

    I'm not seeing mine until it is over. They live in the middle of nowhere, so the last thing they need is it being hand delivered by their kids.
  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    We're going on holiday to Snowdonia soon, seems a good bet at the moment, only 4 cases in Wales.
  • slowbike
    slowbike Posts: 8,498
    TheBigBean said:

    slowbike said:


    The issue would be seeing (or not) our older parents.

    I'm not seeing mine until it is over. They live in the middle of nowhere, so the last thing they need is it being hand delivered by their kids.
    Ours are actively involved in looking after grandkids whilst we work - so little choice atm.... we can get around it - but it'll be a pain - feel sorry for those with no choice.
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    TheBigBean said:

    slowbike said:


    The issue would be seeing (or not) our older parents.

    I'm not seeing mine until it is over. They live in the middle of nowhere, so the last thing they need is it being hand delivered by their kids.
    I made that decision in the middle of last week, my mother is in her eighties with an underlying heart condition
  • surrey_commuter
    surrey_commuter Posts: 18,867
    This has got mentioned on the main Covid thread so thought I would surface it as an historical reference.

    Does amaze me that people keep shouting HINDSIGHT when there are people on here who seemed fully informed about what was heading our way.
  • briantrumpet
    briantrumpet Posts: 20,700
    I'm waiting to see what the choices are like for my five-week summer break in August, planned to be in the French house. I'd probably take a couple of days to drive each way, if I were to go, rather than go by plane/train, but it's still looking very uncertain, especially if the suggested two-week quarantine still applied then on a trip to France (and obviously, equally, if France weren't accepting UK visitors).

    Certainly this thread demonstrates how much can change and how quickly in such a short time.
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  • Longshot
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    Forget CV19 for a moment. My Mother in Law died the day before we were meant to travel so it would have been canned anyway (at least for the wife :D ).

    It wasn't meant to be...
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  • joe2019
    joe2019 Posts: 1,338
    edited May 2020
    Interesting read, and not that long ago, but seems so long ago at the same time...
    joe2019 said:

    We're going on holiday to Snowdonia soon, seems a good bet at the moment, only 4 cases in Wales.

    We never made it to Snowdonia, but got the cottage booked for the same week next year free of charge.

  • fatted864
    fatted864 Posts: 67
    I'm supposed to be in Italy now.... then Spain next week
  • Cargobike
    Cargobike Posts: 748
    fatted864 said:

    I'm supposed to be in Italy now.... then Spain next week

    Taiwan for me, first week of June.
    Can't see that happening, not for two weeks of self imposed quarantine.
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Heck, we're still not sure if we're going to be able to travel to Scotland for our summer hols (that's the start of July in Scotland)

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