Penrith???
Yorkshire on your doorstep, and if you avoid the towns and grockle spots there are miles and miles of empty roads, especially midweek.
Then there is the Eden Valley. Anywhere north of Keswick and east to the Pennines is vast and empty.
Dumfries and Galloway is but a short journey and again is full of empty roads.
Slightly further but only an hour or so in the car and you have Northumberland and Durham.
Houses are cheap too. Pace of life is so much slower than anywhere south of Birmingham you'll soon wonder how you could live life as you are doing at present.
Welsh borders - Monmouth/Abergavenny/Chepstow/Severn estuary. Great road/off road riding area (Velodrome/Llandow/Dean Forest/Cwmcarn/Bikepark and Afan just down the road) and comms links are pretty good..
If the family weren't rooted in East Anglia / London I'd move back to Yorkshire in a heartbeat, probably Ripon / Harrogate. The vale of York is flat but if you want hills you're within easy reach of the Dales and the N Yorks Moors. The Wolds and the East coast are accessible on a day ride.
Leeds has all the city stuff if you really must, and the East coast main line from York gets you to London quite quickly if not cheaply...
This. I live 15 miles from Leeds, great rail links to everywhere, Yorkshire Dales on my doorstep, oodles of almost empty roads if you know where to go- particularly week days and evenings, (relatively) affordable housing, beautiful countryside, great restaurants/ nightlife/social scene if that's your thing. What's not to like?
If the family weren't rooted in East Anglia / London I'd move back to Yorkshire in a heartbeat, probably Ripon / Harrogate. The vale of York is flat but if you want hills you're within easy reach of the Dales and the N Yorks Moors. The Wolds and the East coast are accessible on a day ride.
Leeds has all the city stuff if you really must, and the East coast main line from York gets you to London quite quickly if not cheaply...
This. I live 15 miles from Leeds, great rail links to everywhere, Yorkshire Dales on my doorstep, oodles of almost empty roads if you know where to go- particularly week days and evenings, (relatively) affordable housing, beautiful countryside, great restaurants/ nightlife/social scene if that's your thing. What's not to like?
If the family weren't rooted in East Anglia / London I'd move back to Yorkshire in a heartbeat, probably Ripon / Harrogate. The vale of York is flat but if you want hills you're within easy reach of the Dales and the N Yorks Moors. The Wolds and the East coast are accessible on a day ride.
Leeds has all the city stuff if you really must, and the East coast main line from York gets you to London quite quickly if not cheaply...
This. I live 15 miles from Leeds, great rail links to everywhere, Yorkshire Dales on my doorstep, oodles of almost empty roads if you know where to go- particularly week days and evenings, (relatively) affordable housing, beautiful countryside, great restaurants/ nightlife/social scene if that's your thing. What's not to like?
Isn't it full of gullible Leave voters?
PNAFBT (Please, not another ****ing Brexit thread).
However if that's your main concern then it's London or Scotland for you.
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
My eyes, ears and heart ache for Shropshire. Under populated, great lanes, hills, pretty villages and decent coffee chops for that essential break.
To the west Wales, Cheshire to the north or Herefordshire to the south.
Defiantly not Lancashire.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
Lancashire is fine...
North of a line from Blackpool/Preston/Burnley.
South of that you'll struggle to find quiet roads. I should know - I live there!!!
If the family weren't rooted in East Anglia / London I'd move back to Yorkshire in a heartbeat, probably Ripon / Harrogate. The vale of York is flat but if you want hills you're within easy reach of the Dales and the N Yorks Moors. The Wolds and the East coast are accessible on a day ride.
Leeds has all the city stuff if you really must, and the East coast main line from York gets you to London quite quickly if not cheaply...
This. I live 15 miles from Leeds, great rail links to everywhere, Yorkshire Dales on my doorstep, oodles of almost empty roads if you know where to go- particularly week days and evenings, (relatively) affordable housing, beautiful countryside, great restaurants/ nightlife/social scene if that's your thing. What's not to like?
Isn't it full of gullible Leave voters?
Probably. Looks like you're fvcked if that's one of your criteria then. Hope that helps.
Scottish lowlands. Beautiful landscape, and mostly good roads which are quieter than almost anywhere else in the UK. The rainfall average isn't too bad either.
Lancashire is fine...
North of a line from Blackpool/Preston/Burnley.
South of that you'll struggle to find quiet roads. I should know - I live there!!!
Yep, geographically challenged here too, about 10 miles south of Preston.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring”
If the family weren't rooted in East Anglia / London I'd move back to Yorkshire in a heartbeat, probably Ripon / Harrogate. The vale of York is flat but if you want hills you're within easy reach of the Dales and the N Yorks Moors. The Wolds and the East coast are accessible on a day ride.
Leeds has all the city stuff if you really must, and the East coast main line from York gets you to London quite quickly if not cheaply...
This. I live 15 miles from Leeds, great rail links to everywhere, Yorkshire Dales on my doorstep, oodles of almost empty roads if you know where to go- particularly week days and evenings, (relatively) affordable housing, beautiful countryside, great restaurants/ nightlife/social scene if that's your thing. What's not to like?
Isn't it full of gullible Leave voters?
Probably. Looks like you're fvcked if that's one of your criteria then. Hope that helps.
He also needs to be a minimum safe distance from his Trouble 'n' Strife by the sound of it
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
Norfolk.
London by train in 90mins from Norwich.
Norwich airport to Amsterdam in 50 mins (Then on to anywhere in the world)
Flat but windy cycling (like Belgium without the Flemish)
Still fairly cheap cost of living and we probably average around one fatal stabbing a year.
london by train in 90 mins dont believe the hype on that the that service, I dont think it has met its timetable since it was launched, and yeah room enough for 6 bikes only with reservations...
out and around the broads its nice enough, flat not much traffic enough roads to get lost on and pubs to find if you know where to go looking, but no signs to anywhere on most roads you navigate by the direction of the sun, and this is genuinely true they took all the signs out during WW2 in a Dads Army style home guard thing, and have never put them back, plus as the nationals found, theres no mobile data signal up there, so go prepared with paper maps else youll get stuck.
and near the coast its permanent head wind, plus far more cars on that coastal road that are half tourists, half locals, none of them give you any space.
Was in the Norwich area earlier this 'summer' and thought the driving on the very narrow twisty roads they have was appalling. A lot of new builds going up so traffic will get worse. True about mobiles too - our friend who recently moved there complains about how bad it is and has to use something called a 'land line'.
Yep, geographically challenged here too, about 10 miles south of Preston.
Whereabouts? Chorley? Leyland?
West Lancs plain is fine but you have to stay west of Preston/Chorley/Ormskirk and north of Kirkby/Skem.
Makes things a bit repetitive if you want to avoid traffic. But there's a good caff in Croston.
Norfolk.
London by train in 90mins from Norwich.
Norwich airport to Amsterdam in 50 mins (Then on to anywhere in the world)
Flat but windy cycling (like Belgium without the Flemish)
Still fairly cheap cost of living and we probably average around one fatal stabbing a year.
london by train in 90 mins dont believe the hype on that the that service, I dont think it has met its timetable since it was launched, and yeah room enough for 6 bikes only with reservations...
out and around the broads its nice enough, flat not much traffic enough roads to get lost on and pubs to find if you know where to go looking, but no signs to anywhere on most roads you navigate by the direction of the sun, and this is genuinely true they took all the signs out during WW2 in a Dads Army style home guard thing, and have never put them back, plus as the nationals found, theres no mobile data signal up there, so go prepared with paper maps else youll get stuck.
and near the coast its permanent head wind, plus far more cars on that coastal road that are half tourists, half locals, none of them give you any space.
best area in the Uk for cycling? not for me
All of your complaints could be seen as a blessing by some people, navigating by the sun or angle of Satellite dishes is not a problem and getting lost is only finding new roads.
I never suggested it was the best area for cycling in the UK, I was responding to the OP asking for input on a potential relocation.
Peak District..... I live in Chesterfield and ride into the Peaks. There's loads of roads out there with beautiful scenery plenty of off-road as well. Sheffield just up the road if you need a busy town centre etc.
I've done some glorious rides on some roads where you don't see many vehicles and when you do the traffics fairly light.
Ideal for me as within 5 miles I'm out in the country.
T
Peak District..... I live in Chesterfield and ride into the Peaks. There's loads of roads out there with beautiful scenery plenty of off-road as well. Sheffield just up the road if you need a busy town centre etc.
I've done some glorious rides on some roads where you don't see many vehicles and when you do the traffics fairly light.
Ideal for me as within 5 miles I'm out in the country.
T
Wouldn't touch Dorset with ten foot barge pole.
Heavily industrialised area. High crime rate. Slum housing. Poor infrastructure. Terrible NHS system. Polluted beaches and sea.
Disregard everything the tourist board says. It's a truly awful place.
Now you mention it yes, I had forgotten those aspects.
So Fearnley Whittingstall lied to us!
Yes. He's a complete liar. Dorset is the cesspit of England. Avoid at all costs. Nothing to be seen in the county except sewage ridden beaches, 3rd world housing, vagrants and streets controlled by Russian gangsters.
You would be far better off moving to somewhere much nicer like Jaywick.
Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
Wouldn't touch Dorset with ten foot barge pole.
Heavily industrialised area. High crime rate. Slum housing. Poor infrastructure. Terrible NHS system. Polluted beaches and sea.
Disregard everything the tourist board says. It's a truly awful place.
Now you mention it yes, I had forgotten those aspects.
So Fearnley Whittingstall lied to us!
Yes. He's a complete liar. Dorset is the cesspit of England. Avoid at all costs. Nothing to be seen in the county except sewage ridden beaches, 3rd world housing, vagrants and streets controlled by Russian gangsters.
You would be far better off moving to somewhere much nicer like Jaywick.
Goo, could it be that you dont want Orraloon in your part of the world?
On an unrelated note, I forgot to say that Kent and the SE London suburbs are complete shyte holes as well
"I spent most of my money on birds, booze and fast cars: the rest of it I just squandered." [George Best]
Not long back from a week in Bridport and spent a lot of time in Dorset as a kid visiting my nan. Love Cornwall and Devon too.
I always take a bike on holiday and much as I love the South West it never strikes me as a great cycling area. The way the smaller lanes are banked up at the side kills visibility and slightly bigger roads get busy in Summer. I'm sure there are some great areas for cycling there but I wouldn't pick it out as a great region for riding.
I never see many road cyclists when I'm down there either.
Wouldn't touch Dorset with ten foot barge pole.
Heavily industrialised area. High crime rate. Slum housing. Poor infrastructure. Terrible NHS system. Polluted beaches and sea.
Disregard everything the tourist board says. It's a truly awful place.
Now you mention it yes, I had forgotten those aspects.
So Fearnley Whittingstall lied to us!
Yes. He's a complete liar. Dorset is the cesspit of England. Avoid at all costs. Nothing to be seen in the county except sewage ridden beaches, 3rd world housing, vagrants and streets controlled by Russian gangsters.
You would be far better off moving to somewhere much nicer like Jaywick.
Goo, could it be that you dont want Orraloon in your part of the world?
On an unrelated note, I forgot to say that Kent and the SE London suburbs are complete shyte holes as well
Nothing personal against Orraloon. But when you've got villages at 25% occupation I think I want to put off as many people as possible. Plus I'm moving to Isle of Purbeck so stay away.
Always be yourself, unless you can be Aaron Rodgers....Then always be Aaron Rodgers.
On an unrelated note, I forgot to say that Kent and the SE London suburbs are complete shyte holes as well
I have no idea what Kent and the far south east is like, other than being a drag on the M20 en route the tunnel and civilisation. But I was pondering about down that way for easy (well it is for now, thanks f-wit politicos) access over the waters. Last year on a hire bike pootle cafe (and beers) stop in Watou just over the Belgian border, got chatting to a couple of guys wearing Ashford Tri Club tops; day ride inc ferry to Calais, loop around and back for a 5pm crossing return. What a grand day out I thought.
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Yorkshire on your doorstep, and if you avoid the towns and grockle spots there are miles and miles of empty roads, especially midweek.
Then there is the Eden Valley. Anywhere north of Keswick and east to the Pennines is vast and empty.
Dumfries and Galloway is but a short journey and again is full of empty roads.
Slightly further but only an hour or so in the car and you have Northumberland and Durham.
Houses are cheap too. Pace of life is so much slower than anywhere south of Birmingham you'll soon wonder how you could live life as you are doing at present.
However if that's your main concern then it's London or Scotland for you.
To the west Wales, Cheshire to the north or Herefordshire to the south.
Defiantly not Lancashire.
Desmond Tutu
North of a line from Blackpool/Preston/Burnley.
South of that you'll struggle to find quiet roads. I should know - I live there!!!
Probably. Looks like you're fvcked if that's one of your criteria then. Hope that helps.
Yep, geographically challenged here too, about 10 miles south of Preston.
Desmond Tutu
london by train in 90 mins
out and around the broads its nice enough, flat not much traffic enough roads to get lost on and pubs to find if you know where to go looking, but no signs to anywhere on most roads you navigate by the direction of the sun, and this is genuinely true they took all the signs out during WW2 in a Dads Army style home guard thing, and have never put them back, plus as the nationals found, theres no mobile data signal up there, so go prepared with paper maps else youll get stuck.
and near the coast its permanent head wind, plus far more cars on that coastal road that are half tourists, half locals, none of them give you any space.
best area in the Uk for cycling? not for me
Whereabouts? Chorley? Leyland?
West Lancs plain is fine but you have to stay west of Preston/Chorley/Ormskirk and north of Kirkby/Skem.
Makes things a bit repetitive if you want to avoid traffic. But there's a good caff in Croston.
Don't think it would suit OP.
All of your complaints could be seen as a blessing by some people, navigating by the sun or angle of Satellite dishes is not a problem and getting lost is only finding new roads.
I never suggested it was the best area for cycling in the UK, I was responding to the OP asking for input on a potential relocation.
I've done some glorious rides on some roads where you don't see many vehicles and when you do the traffics fairly light.
Ideal for me as within 5 miles I'm out in the country.
T
Wouldn't touch Dorset with ten foot barge pole.
Heavily industrialised area. High crime rate. Slum housing. Poor infrastructure. Terrible NHS system. Polluted beaches and sea.
Disregard everything the tourist board says. It's a truly awful place.
Now you mention it yes, I had forgotten those aspects.
This one
https://road.cc/content/news/265376-police-appeal-victims-after-youths-bikes-film-maddest-day-ever-brighton?fbclid=IwAR2zTajZtxNbn98QcO51sIBG_JLErTEfuBwu3b8Xkvy1mkAt7QQ2T7uVCh8
Little sh!tz!
So Fearnley Whittingstall lied to us!
Yes. He's a complete liar. Dorset is the cesspit of England. Avoid at all costs. Nothing to be seen in the county except sewage ridden beaches, 3rd world housing, vagrants and streets controlled by Russian gangsters.
You would be far better off moving to somewhere much nicer like Jaywick.
River Cottage is in Devon.
Pinnacle Monzonite
Part of the anti-growth coalition
The original one was in Dorset I believe.
On an unrelated note, I forgot to say that Kent and the SE London suburbs are complete shyte holes as well
I always take a bike on holiday and much as I love the South West it never strikes me as a great cycling area. The way the smaller lanes are banked up at the side kills visibility and slightly bigger roads get busy in Summer. I'm sure there are some great areas for cycling there but I wouldn't pick it out as a great region for riding.
I never see many road cyclists when I'm down there either.
Nothing personal against Orraloon. But when you've got villages at 25% occupation I think I want to put off as many people as possible. Plus I'm moving to Isle of Purbeck so stay away.