Cobo DQ Vuelta 2011? - may contain rumours

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edited June 2019 in Pro race
Daniel Friebe
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More Daniel Friebe Retweeted Josué Elena Hernández
This rumour has been circulating at Dauphiné for last 20 mins, now being reported in Spain: Juanjo Cobo disqualified from 2011 Vuelta...where Chris Froome was runner-up.
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  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Just repeated on Eurosport.

    Not a shock. Came out of nowhere. Won. Never came close to repeating it.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Beat me to it. Just put the breaking news on the CF thread.
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  • theknowledge
    theknowledge Posts: 223
    So Froome might wake from his coma to the news that he's won another Grand Tour?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Is this just to get Froome to regain consciousness? Or some sort of holistic healing process?
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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,451
    Least surprising doping bust ever
  • bianchi_dave
    bianchi_dave Posts: 933
    Stephens made a good point on ES that it would make Froome Britain's first grand tour winner, ahead of Wiggins
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  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    edited June 2019
    r0bh wrote:
    Least surprising doping bust ever...

    ...there’s a lot of competition for that accolade!
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Why did it take eight years.
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Why did it take eight years.

    https://www.uci.org/inside-uci/press-re ... cobo-acebo
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,325
    r0bh wrote:
    Least surprising doping bust ever

    Might be trumped when they bust Horner... but yes...
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  • shinyhelmut
    shinyhelmut Posts: 1,364
    I think Ricco is probably in the running too.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Chris Froome is the first person to win a Grand Tour classification while unconscious since Djamoladine Abdoujaparov won the Green Jersey in 1991
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  • crossed
    crossed Posts: 237
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    r0bh wrote:
    Least surprising doping bust ever

    Might be trumped when they bust Horner... but yes...

    That was the first thing to spring to mind when I read that post!
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Why did it take eight years.

    https://www.uci.org/inside-uci/press-re ... cobo-acebo
    Nothing official about DQs in that statement
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  • Dorset_Boy
    Dorset_Boy Posts: 7,611
    Looked highly suspicious at the time.
    Yet another Spaniard done for doping.

    might make the Dawg feel a little better today!
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    RichN95 wrote:
    Chris Froome is the first person to win a Grand Tour classification while unconscious since Djamoladine Abdoujaparov won the Green Jersey in 1991
    weird but true
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  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,730
    RichN95 wrote:
    Blazing Saddles wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Why did it take eight years.

    https://www.uci.org/inside-uci/press-re ... cobo-acebo
    Nothing official about DQs in that statement

    Until the formal processes have run their course, there wouldn't be.
    Probably 2021, but unless he's cleared, he will lose that title.
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    "The Anti-Doping Tribunal found the retired rider guilty of an anti-doping rule violation (Use of a prohibited substance) based on abnormalities from 2009 and 2011 detected in his Biological Passport* and imposed a three-year period of ineligibility on the rider."
    Is that period of ineligibility from now or from the time that the ABP abnormalities occured?

    Anyway, the moral victory is Froome's whatever the official sanction is. 7.5 years is a long time to be waiting for a podium ceremony though...
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    The Wiki report of the race is entertaining. In the race overview, neither Cobo, Froome or Wiggins are mentioned!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vuelta_a_Espa%C3%B1a
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    For added Ineos trolling, Wout Poels should inherit the Angliru stage win.
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  • hanshotfirst
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    larkim wrote:
    The Wiki report of the race is entertaining. In the race overview, neither Cobo, Froome or Wiggins are mentioned!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vuelta_a_Espa%C3%B1a
    RichN95 wrote:
    For added Ineos trolling, Wout Poels should inherit the Angliru stage win.

    Off the back of these two posts I have discovered that Wout Poels' middle names are Lambertus Martinus Henricus..... now that's something!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,718
    I really was hoping someone would have dug all the way back for the stage spoiler thread...

    Anyway, decent news for Froomey to wake up to...
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    ddraver wrote:
    I really was hoping someone would have dug all the way back for the stage spoiler thread...

    Anyway, decent news for Froomey to wake up to...

    It's not that hard... Nibs was thowing shade...
    viewtopic.php?f=40002&t=12799490&hilit=vuelta+spoiler&start=260

    And if you're really bored, here is the full list of spoilers from 2011 (scroll down).
    search.php?st=0&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&keywords=vuelta+spoiler&fid%5B%5D=40002&sf=titleonly&start=40
  • RichN95.
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    hanshotfirst wrote:
    the back of these two posts I have discovered that Wout Poels' middle names are Lambertus Martinus Henricus..... now that's something!
    And his DS Servais Knaven's real name is Henricus Theodorus Josephus Knaven
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  • The Nodder
    The Nodder Posts: 33
    Gutted for Wiggins, I remember watching him blow up on the final time trial trying to gain too much time on Cobo. If he’d been defending his lead I reckon he’d have beaten Froome.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,912
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    I think Ricco is probably in the running too.

    Riccardo Ricco gets my vote too
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    mididoctors wrote:
    ShinyHelmut wrote:
    I think Ricco is probably in the running too.

    Riccardo Ricco gets my vote too

    Landis for me.

    Wasn’t even up over the final climb and I was rolling my eyes.
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  • ShutupJens
    ShutupJens Posts: 1,373
    Not to forget the team which Cobo finished his career with - Torku Sekerspor - yes "that" team from the tour of Turkey

    Now that was one of the best drug busts of all time
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,262
    Some titbits from the Spanish media (no idea how reliable)

    Bio passport anomalies were not quite enough to sanction on their own but retesting old samples with new methods produced a positive

    There's been a case open since 2015

    Cobo unlikely to appeal - he works as a milkman and a surf coach.

    Also Mollema's already enjoying his podium: https://twitter.com/BaukeMollema/status ... 8710978560
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    So since it’s bio passport it’s not a new test for some EPO right?

    Just a few more riders being pinged recently so I assumed they have.
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